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Giro d’Italia 2024, Stage 16: Livigno – Santa Cristina Valgardena/Sankt Christina in Gröden (Monte Pana), 202.0k 206.0k

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Sure, but riding on snow might be seen as not something they should tolerate? If ALL riders, not just a few, but 100% said this is too much, maybe our first response should be to listen?
90+ riders decided even trying to make the time cut in a sub-120km medium mountain stage, two days after a stage where they took a day off on the bike (after the organisers already took climbs out of the stage) was 'too much' for them eight years ago. An awful lot has been 'too much' recently and in the Giro twice in the last three years we've had neutralisations or removals of key parts of the race due to them being 'too much' only to find that 'too much' was actually safer than most of the rest of the race that they actually did compete in. Hansen's last meaningful contribution to the sport as an active rider was to decide a flat stage in the rain in week 3 was 'too much', a decision that even many members of the péloton later confessed they felt embarrassed by.

It means that their pronouncements of what 'too much' is are viewed with a great deal of skepticism. Especially when, as mentioned, the road conditions in the snow isn't even mentioned in Hansen's letter, just the fact that it's cold.

Plus, of course, the safety argument holds some weight, but conversely an argument could be made that if the descent is wet and slippery, maybe the riders will respect it and handle it at a safe tempo rather than divebombing and kamikazeing one another then blaming the organisers when they make mistakes and get hurt. After all I showed all those pictures of the torrential downpours and snow banks at the 2010 Giro, and that was won by one of the absolute dirt worst descenders the sport has ever seen.
 
I imagine it's because of the wind chill. Would probably feel like below freezing if going down at full speed.

Though I do wonder if the current clothing really can't help.
Yeah a thermal long sleeve, jersey, and larger soft shell jacket would surely do the trick? Add in a snood of some kind, a hat, gloves etc. I feel like riders have probably trained in this weather before. I've ridden in this temperature! It's not pleasant but it's fine, you get over it.
 
It seems like RCS accepted to cancel Umbrail but they don't really know how to get to Prad where the stage should start. They can either go over Umbrail or over the tunnel near Livigno the Suisse national park. This is a private onwed tunnel. I don't know if a whole convoy can get through.
No chance, it's small as feck. You don't stand a chance with team busses and even cars with bikes on top might not fit. Also it'll be a logistical nightmare to have it spontaneously open just one way (it normally switches every 15 minutes).
That's what I said before, even "just" going to the Vinschgau valley will now turn into a mess because everyone driving over Umbrailpass will take ages.
 
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Apparently the RCS understood that it is indeed too dangerous. So everything was done within the law.
If you are a professional cyclist at the Giro, with no GC aspirations, and a stage in the third week contains a pass that is really cold and wet but doesn't go above the EWP threshold, and Adam Hansen comes and asks whether you'd like it removed from the race, you would obviously say yes. It makes your life significantly easier.

There are no repercussions if you protest, because the RCS-rider relationship is principal (team) and client (RCS), not employee/employer. RCS have, effectively, no say. They cannot force people to ride, and even if they think the weather isn't bad enough, they have to acquiesce.
 
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Apparently from the pass.