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Mellow Velo said:
Wrong Guti. That was Jose Enrico.;)
Frank Schleck clean?
Got that from Doc Fuentes's case notes, I take it!:D
As for Gibo= cocaine, I wonder where that leaves Disco Tom's palmares?:rolleyes:

I think that by "clean" he means "hasn't been caught". There's no way to know who's truly clean.
 
il_fiammingo said:
2009 · Robert Gesink ==> clean
2008 · Danilo Di Luca ==> doping
2007 · Fränk Schleck ==> clean
2006 · Davide Rebellin ==> doping
2005 · Gilberto Simoni ==> cocaine
2004 · Ivan Basso ==> doping
2003 · José Iván Gutiérrez ==> clean
2002 · Francesco Casagrande ==> doping
2001 · Jan Ullrich ==> doping
2000 · Gilberto Simoni ==> cocaine

This is how relative the impressive list of winners is. Although i don't really want to think about doping when talking about cycling; it regularly pops into my mind when scrolling through the list winners of any major race: half of these winners of the last 15 years are dirty in some way.

2009 · Robert Gesink ==> clean, I have my doubts
2007 · Fränk Schleck ==> clean, probably not

But thats all for another forum
 
il_fiammingo said:
2009 · Robert Gesink ==> clean
2008 · Danilo Di Luca ==> doping
2007 · Fränk Schleck ==> clean
2006 · Davide Rebellin ==> doping
2005 · Gilberto Simoni ==> cocaine
2004 · Ivan Basso ==> doping
2003 · José Iván Gutiérrez ==> clean
2002 · Francesco Casagrande ==> doping
2001 · Jan Ullrich ==> doping
2000 · Gilberto Simoni ==> cocaine

This is how relative the impressive list of winners is. Although i don't really want to think about doping when talking about cycling; it regularly pops into my mind when scrolling through the list winners of any major race: half of these winners of the last 15 years are dirty in some way.

Why oh why do you wanna rain on my Gibo Love parade?:( Wasn't he later cleared of this offense by the Italian cycling authorities, a truly non-partisan
bunch?
 
Merckx used as well, who didn't? I stopped the hindsight judging of results and winners by doping histories, where does it end? I don't believe there were many clean pro's in the past, so it was pretty fair I think.