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Aug 6, 2009
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Mellow Velo said:
Wrong Guti. That was Jose Enrico.;)
Frank Schleck clean?
Got that from Doc Fuentes's case notes, I take it!:D
As for Gibo= cocaine, I wonder where that leaves Disco Tom's palmares?:rolleyes:

I think that by "clean" he means "hasn't been caught". There's no way to know who's truly clean.
 
il_fiammingo said:
2009 · Robert Gesink ==> clean
2008 · Danilo Di Luca ==> doping
2007 · Fränk Schleck ==> clean
2006 · Davide Rebellin ==> doping
2005 · Gilberto Simoni ==> cocaine
2004 · Ivan Basso ==> doping
2003 · José Iván Gutiérrez ==> clean
2002 · Francesco Casagrande ==> doping
2001 · Jan Ullrich ==> doping
2000 · Gilberto Simoni ==> cocaine

This is how relative the impressive list of winners is. Although i don't really want to think about doping when talking about cycling; it regularly pops into my mind when scrolling through the list winners of any major race: half of these winners of the last 15 years are dirty in some way.

2009 · Robert Gesink ==> clean, I have my doubts
2007 · Fränk Schleck ==> clean, probably not

But thats all for another forum
 
il_fiammingo said:
2009 · Robert Gesink ==> clean
2008 · Danilo Di Luca ==> doping
2007 · Fränk Schleck ==> clean
2006 · Davide Rebellin ==> doping
2005 · Gilberto Simoni ==> cocaine
2004 · Ivan Basso ==> doping
2003 · José Iván Gutiérrez ==> clean
2002 · Francesco Casagrande ==> doping
2001 · Jan Ullrich ==> doping
2000 · Gilberto Simoni ==> cocaine

This is how relative the impressive list of winners is. Although i don't really want to think about doping when talking about cycling; it regularly pops into my mind when scrolling through the list winners of any major race: half of these winners of the last 15 years are dirty in some way.

Why oh why do you wanna rain on my Gibo Love parade?:( Wasn't he later cleared of this offense by the Italian cycling authorities, a truly non-partisan
bunch?
 
May 17, 2009
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Cerberus said:
I think that by "clean" he means "hasn't been caught". There's no way to know who's truly clean.
But Fränk Schleck has been caught, he just hasn't tested positive.
 
Merckx used as well, who didn't? I stopped the hindsight judging of results and winners by doping histories, where does it end? I don't believe there were many clean pro's in the past, so it was pretty fair I think.
 
May 6, 2009
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Gilbert wins the Giro del Piedmont. Does it really have to take until September and early October for S/L to finally do anything?