Giro d'Italia 2018 stage 17: Riva del Garda – Iseo 155 km

[saganftw]

only watching the stage for sam bennetts gf

 

[Eyeballs Out]

Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 stage 17: Riva del Garda – Iseo 155 k

That's the 2nd time Bennets looked faster but had to start from too far back. Where's the leadout?

DNS stage 6

 

[More Strides than Rides]

Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 stage 17: Riva del Garda – Iseo 155 k

That's the 2nd time Bennets looked faster but had to start from too far back. Where's the leadout?

Spent their gas between km 20 and km 145.

 

[luckyboy]

Bennett was like 9th place just before Viviani hit the front. Would've won easily if he had the positioning of Sbaragli

 

[movingtarget]

So much for a day off. Viviani gets it done again. Be some tired legs tonight.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 stage 17: Riva del Garda – Iseo 155 k

That's the 2nd time Bennets looked faster but had to start from too far back. Where's the leadout?

His lead out, Selig, is long out of the race.

Viviani and QS are giving a master class in winning against a guy who appears to be objectively faster. It’s 4-2 now. A combination of being smart, having better timing and positioning and in particular a stronger team is prevailing most of the time against a higher top speed and acceleration. Of course that wouldn’t work if the speed/power/acceleration gap was truly enormous - it really doesn’t matter how smart or well supported the lower tier sprinters in this race are, they will only win if the top two royally screw it up - but in competition between top level sprinters it rarely is.

 

[shalgo]

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That was pretty stupid by Van Poppel. He was in the perfect position on Viviani's wheel, but instead of waiting for Viviani to open his sprint, he went around Viviani early and let Viviani draft off of him before sprinting.

He is nowhere near having Viviani's speed, so that would not work. Just look how he couldn't even gap Sabatini when he started sprinting. He did the right thing, I believe.

I don't think he would have beaten Viviani, but if he hadn't spent that extra time in the wind, he probably would have finished second instead of fourth.

 

[jaylew]

Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 stage 17: Riva del Garda – Iseo 155 k

That's the 2nd time Bennets looked faster but had to start from too far back. Where's the leadout?

His lead out, Selig, is long out of the race.

Viviani and QS are giving a master class in winning against a guy who appears to be objectively faster. It’s 4-2 now. A combination of being smart, having better timing and positioning and in particular a stronger team is prevailing most of the time against a higher top speed and acceleration. Of course that wouldn’t work if the speed/power/acceleration gap was truly enormous - it really doesn’t matter how smart or well supported the lower tier sprinters in this race are, they will only win if the top two royally screw it up - but in competition between top level sprinters it rarely is.

4-1, really. They didn't go head to head for one of those. I wouldn't say either has necessarily looked faster than the other on a whole as it's been different across the stages. I definitely agree with any QS sprinter having an advantage against the competition. We've seen it all season with them and for the last several years really.

 

[drebelo]

Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 stage 17: Riva del Garda – Iseo 155 k

Aru losing more than 6 min. The ressurection seems over. Woods losing 35 seconds

 

[movingtarget]

Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 stage 17: Riva del Garda – Iseo 155 k

Aru losing more than 6 min. The ressurection seems over. Woods losing 35 seconds

Unless he's sandbagging and waiting for the mountains. Stage victory is all he can aim for now. No reason for him not to step off the gas towards the end of the stage.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Goncalves gets his 3rd 10th place of the race, all on sprint-ish stages. Odd for a guy who is no sprinter and top 20 on GC.

 

[wirral]

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Goncalves gets his 3rd 10th place of the race, all on sprint-ish stages. Odd for a guy who is no sprinter and top 20 on GC.

Reminiscent of Talansky.

 

[Jagartrott]

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Bennett was like 9th place just before Viviani hit the front. Would've won easily if he had the positioning of Sbaragli

Always the same assertions/discussion when there's a headwind sprint. The man coming from behind is *always* faster.

 

[ThePirate81]

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Great that QS gets rewarded for their antics at the start of the stage.

QS and Vegni simply shameful today.

 

[Robert5091]

So that was the quiet stage before the mountain stages :lol:

Just love the Giro. Chapeau QS! One more for the record books.

 

[search]

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Goncalves gets his 3rd 10th place of the race, all on sprint-ish stages. Odd for a guy who is no sprinter and top 20 on GC.

at the start of the race Katusha was going for those daily team classifications I think (winning all three in Israel). Looks like he found a bit of a pleasure in it