But with dubious Fauniera mentions it is now officially a Giro route thread.
What was it before?
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But with dubious Fauniera mentions it is now officially a Giro route thread.
Southern European granfondo thread.What was it before?
Last time they finished at Tirano after Mortirolo it wasn't that great. There wasn't Santa Cristina though. I guess the article doesn't say which Santa Cristina side they do if it only mentions it as a possibility.Local article today mentions a finish in Tirano after Mortirolo and (possibly) Santa Cristina. That should be stage 16.
yeah there aren't that many details.Last time they finished at Tirano after Mortirolo it wasn't that great. There wasn't Santa Cristina though. I guess the article doesn't say which Santa Cristina side they do if it only mentions it as a possibility.
I guess it's the same as in 2010 (just with a different order).Last time they finished at Tirano after Mortirolo it wasn't that great. There wasn't Santa Cristina though. I guess the article doesn't say which Santa Cristina side they do if it only mentions it as a possibility.
that would be nice, yes.If they continue with new ascents of it, maybe we'll get it from Zafferana Etnea?
Would be much better than this year to have such a hard stage early on. Will the finish be at ~1700m again, do you think?local TV today stated that the Blockhaus finish will actually come after Passo Lanciano x2 (that is, the final Blockhaus will not be climbed from Roccamorice, but from Scafa via Lanciano). That should be pretty good.
yes, the finish should be the same as 2017, at the Rifugio Mammarosa.Would be much better than this year to have such a hard stage early on. Will the finish be at ~1700m again, do you think?
So first they do the opposite side of Lanciano then some small loop before going back up?yes, the finish should be the same as 2017, at the Rifugio Mammarosa.
no, they're gonna climb Lanciano from Lettomanoppello or from Pretoro, descend the other side and then reclimb it from the same side, but this time finish higher on the Blockhaus. The finish line will be the same as 2017 but they'll reach it from the other side. (last time they climbed from Roccamorice, which is the only side that does not go through Lanciano)So first they do the opposite side of Lanciano then some small loop before going back up?
Wait I only now realise the western road doesn't even go to Lanciano
Okay. Sounds counterintuitive at first but when I was just looking I saw the Lanciano sides don't start that for apart.no, they're gonna climb Lanciano from Lettomanoppello or from Pretoro, descend the other side and then reclimb it from the same side, but this time finish higher on the Blockhaus. The finish line will be the same as 2017 but they'll reach it from the other side. (last time they climbed from Roccamorice, which is the only side that does not go through Lanciano)
that won't happen. In any case they will descend from Lanciano, at 1300mOkay. Sounds counterintuitive at first but when I was just looking I saw the Lanciano sides don't start that for apart.
Roccamorice is a better climb though but it's not a huge difference and still a good stage.
But I hadn't realised they could climb to around 1600 and descend stlil, so that would be exciting.
I know but it's another exciting thing that won't happen year after yearthat won't happen. In any case they will descend from Lanciano, at 1300m
Eshnar: Giveth expectationsAlright I've been thinking about the Tirano stage and I think I had a good idea so I'm gonna post it before someone else gets there too XD
They might climb the Mortirolo and then descend directly towards Aprica, using the road they used last year at the Giro u23, then climb Santa Cristina, descend to Aprica again and then to Tirano.
As I said they used that road last year so it's not that farfetched of an idea. And imho it would be the best option, avoiding the climb to Aprica in between Mortirolo and S.Cristina, which I think works only if you have Pantani in the peloton.
Something like this
DISCLAIMER: The actual stage might not look like this at all...
I'd also love to see a finish on the Passo Eira after the Forcola di Livigno once. Put the Mortirolo from Monno, or even better the Recta Contador before it and you have a great stage.Alright I've been thinking about the Tirano stage and I think I had a good idea so I'm gonna post it before someone else gets there too XD
They might climb the Mortirolo and then descend directly towards Aprica, using the road they used last year at the Giro u23, then climb Santa Cristina, descend to Aprica again and then to Tirano.
As I said they used that road last year so it's not that farfetched of an idea. And imho it would be the best option, avoiding the climb to Aprica in between Mortirolo and S.Cristina, which I think works only if you have Pantani in the peloton.
Something like this
DISCLAIMER: The actual stage might not look like this at all...
I can't get over how wrong Recta Contador sounds tbh.I'd also love to see a finish on the Passo Eira after the Forcola di Livigno once. Put the Mortirolo from Monno, or even better the Recta Contador before it and you have a great stage.
At the time I was kinda annoyed that they named a side of the climb after him before he had done anything relevant on that climb. At least he made things right in the 2015 Giro, but naming a side of the Mortirolo after him when his only previous performance on the climb was the 2008 Giro was some serious BS. They should have named it Direttissima Ivan Basso.I can't get over how wrong Recta Contador sounds tbh.
That too, but I was more referring to it sounds like it literally means 'Contadors ***hole'At the time I was kinda annoyed that they named a side of the climb after him before he had done anything relevant on that climb. At least he made things right in the 2015 Giro, but naming a side of the Mortirolo after him when his only previous performance on the climb was the 2008 Giro was some serious BS. They should have named it Direttissima Ivan Basso.