Giro d'Italia Giro d'Italia 2023, stage 12: Bra - Rivoli 179 km

[Scarponi]

Love seeing non winners like that , the absolute joy on his face

 

[SafeBet]

Wow Denz looks so happy. Great win for him!

 

[Nick2413]

Wow. Thought Denz was paid to lead out Skujins at first but nice grind.

 

[Filippo_3467]

Easy win in the end. Almost a perfect Politt impression today.

 

[RedheadDane]

Looked like Denz would have no chance when he got stuck at the front.
However, I was wrong.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Nico Cage played it well.

 

[Red Rick]

I guess Berwick is happy he trusted his sprint in the end.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Van Welder needs to start with bunch sprints, his 500m power was very strong. With his decent climbing and awful tactics he can be the next wva

 

[Red Rick]

Even Denz' happiness looks like acting

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Never rooted so hard for Skujins as just now. Unfortunately to no avail.

 

[skippo12]

I guess Berwick is happy he trusted his sprint in the end.

Even if he had dropped them on the climb they would have caught him on last 20km. Not sure what he could have done to overcome the weight/power difference.

 

[Salvarani]

Nico Cage played it well.

He was gone in 60 seconds

 

[Red Rick]

Even if he had dropped them on the climb they would have caught him on last 20km. Not sure what he could have done to overcome the weight/power difference.

He could have tried anything different.

 

[Volderke]

If only Berwick or Skuijns went all-in on the climb trying to drop Denz, the way Denz tried to drop them on the flat, they could have had a chance.
Dragging Denz over the top was game over.
I will never understand why good climbers don't try to drop non-climbers on the climb (being a kind of Denz-type rider myself), even if there is 25K to go. It seems like they are too afraid to go solo and go for all or nothing, than what they actually do: having the comfort of riding together, and having a false sense that they are sprinting for the win, while their chances are going to zero the moment they are in the last kilometer and are 100% sure to be beaten in the sprint (I was rooting for Berwick).

 

[Rackham]

Rohan Dennis is there

Prepare to get Stelviod tomorrow

This is no joke. Not just Dennis but the whole team looks strong & Kuss just got a 'free' 6 minutes in GC. Jumbo definitely likes to have at least one rider who's close enough to the top so he can get into 'dangerous' breakaways in the mountains.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

If only Berwick or Skuijns went all-in on the climb trying to drop Denz, the way Denz tried to drop them on the flat, they could have had a chance.
Dragging Denz over the top was game over.
I will never understand why good climbers don't try to drop non-climbers on the climb (being a kind of Denz-type rider myself), even if there is 25K to go. It seems like they are too afraid to go solo and go for all or nothing, than what they actually do: having the comfort of riding together, and having a false sense that they are sprinting for the win, while their chances are going to zero the moment they are in the last kilometer and are 100% sure to be beaten in the sprint (I was rooting for Berwick).

Denz is a good descender and a good play actor.

 

[movingtarget]

Berwick looked down at his bike in the sprint maybe the lack of cooperation from the legs ? Strong win by Denz. Happy winner like yesterday's winner.

 

[wheresmybrakes]

Yesterday, could have got 8/1 on Van Wilder finishing in the top 10 and 1000/1 to finish in the top 3. Wish I had a couple of silly pounds at those odds. I can't see them being there now.

 

[jmdirt]

I love it when the winner comes from a break! Congrats ND!

 

[groogster]

1.5 because it’s very likely that Roglic will make a move in the last segment of the climb. That’s why Jumbo has 2 riders in the break.

I know nothing about tactics! What’s the point of Jumbo move with 2 riders on the break? Put Kuss closer in GC? Also didn’t understand what was Formolo doing after being obvious that the chase group wasn’t going to catch the front trio!

 

[Filippo_3467]

I know nothing about tactics! What’s the point of Jumbo move with 2 riders on the break? Put Kuss closer in GC? Also didn’t understand what was Formolo doing after being obvious that the chase group wasn’t going to catch the front trio!

team classification

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Worst first 12 days I can remember in a while, god damn. Thankfully I havent watched that much due to work. Lets wait and see in the mountains, it can't get much worse than this.

The 2011 Tour was absolute crap for two weeks marred by crashes and withdrawals of half the GC mix, and then it was gold for the remaining week, so there's still hope.

I just don't have much of it based on recent evidence.

 

[Valv.Piti]

The 2011 Tour was absolute crap for two weeks marred by crashes and withdrawals of half the GC mix, and then it was gold for the remaining week, so there's still hope.

I just don't have much of it based on recent evidence.

Tour 2011 is the best comparison with the crashes and the bad weather. The mountains are equally hard, more or less, problem just is that the rider they were supposed to attack is out and so is another one of the best climbers. Tour 2011 only had DNF's from outsiders and not the biggest riders (Contador, Schleck, Evans, Sanchez).

I think Almeida is the only one who can save the race from being bad right now. I don't really have much faith in a Thomas-Roglic duel to light anything up.

 

[Faserr]

Nice. Denz did some really good team work already in this giro. I'm really happy for him. At DSM he didn't get much chances.

 

[Sciatic]

I know nothing about tactics! What’s the point of Jumbo move with 2 riders on the break? Put Kuss closer in GC? Also didn’t understand what was Formolo doing after being obvious that the chase group wasn’t going to catch the front trio!

I don’t know why they put those guys in the break to start—insurance policy in case Bahrain was up to something? But as far as Kuss continuing to ride in the break and push the climb: I used to hear (read) this more often than nowadays, but riders used to talk about needing a hard stage or hard climb to “open up their legs.” Kuss has been primarily soft pedaling at the back of the bunch most days, so maybe he felt like riding harder today was n deed to be ready for tomorrow. Seems like that would be a bad idea if there was a 3-day high mtn block starting Sat.. But in this case, after stage 13 he won’t be needed as a key for Jumbo til next week.