Giro d'Italia Giro d'Italia 2023, stage 12: Bra - Rivoli 179 km

[Peyroteo94]

Can we have next year descents's profile instead of climbs? They are doing a lot of damage this year.

 

[groogster]

So Ineos and Jumbo will both want to be at the front at the summt, n'est-ce pas? But as Friday's stage will be large in everyone's mind, I suppose a GC truce will be in order.

How come Ineos Vs Jumbo? There are other forces in play.

 

[skippo12]

So Ineos and Jumbo will both want to be at the front at the summt, n'est-ce pas? But as Friday's stage will be large in everyone's mind, I suppose a GC truce will be in order.

Jumbo has been sitting at the back of the peleton on most stages. Crashs are inevitable and it looks like Roglic prefers to stay behind the chaos.

 

[Sciatic]

About 30-35 km to go. The Sacra di San Michele is just few hundred meters to the right of the main climb of the day, a couple of km after the short descent that is halfway on the Colle Braida. No idea about heli views, it is probably going to rain (but fortunately not so much, it is going to be much worse from Friday to Sunday because in this area forecast shows about 100 to 200 mm of rainfall, while in my area that is 50 km more south it is going to rain about 300 mm in 3 days).

Thank you!

 

[staubsauger]

I rate Bouwman as a much better climber than Oomen at the moment.

He has been Roglic last man for the whole Giro d'Italia so far hasn't he?

Kuss operational area just comes from Friday on though.

 

[Gratemans]

He has been Roglic last man for the whole Giro d'Italia so far hasn't he?

Kuss operational area just comes from Friday on though.

I'd put both Bouwman and Kuss waay above Oomen. I feel he's mostly with Jumbo to keep spirits up. (which isn't an unimportant role, and often even overlooked imo). But he won't be the one pulling Primoz up all those mountains.
I really love the dude though: he's funny and completely unfiltered when put in front of a camera.

 

[movingtarget]

That descent will test the less confident GC descenders .Looks like a good break stage. KOM jersey should draw out some decent climbers. Hope the rain holds off on this one.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

The only way they'll have interest is if bonus seconds and a stage win is in play. If the break wins the stage (which seems likely) they'll roll in without a pedal turned in anger.

Does Roglic want the boniseconds right now? I doubt it tbh.

Gonna be a good first 30k hopefully

Mcnulty, Healy, Albanese, Clarke/De Marchi, VPP/APP maybe Cort/Matthews/Pederson or Van Wilder trying to get in the breakaway

Been wondering about Van Wilder. When he was riding for Sunweb/DSM he wanted to stick to riding for GC even if there was little to be gained from it (let's say top 20 in a 2.pro race), even when there could have been opportunities for going in the break. Now he has a choice to make, he's 17th in GC in the Giro, but he's also 12 minutes down, and almost 4 minutes from the guy ahead of him. Also, i've seen him better than the impression i'm getting now. He could try and gain time while going for a stagewin in a break. But often that means losing places in GC the next day(s). My guess is he won't go in the break tomorrow and see how far he can go in stage 13. If that's not a success, then he'll go for stages after that.

 

[Amazinmets87]

Does Roglic want the boniseconds right now? I doubt it tbh.

Why wouldn't he? I doubt he'd shy away from wresting the pink jersey off Thomas shoulders at this stage of the race.

 

[Rackham]

Why wouldn't he? I doubt he'd shy away from wresting the pink jersey off Thomas shoulders at this stage of the race.

I agree. I mean after Ineos took those blows yesterday I think Jumbo are the strongest GC team left. So controlling the race shouldn't be as much of an issue now.

Depending on how Rogla feels, they need merely pick & choose where & when they want the jersey.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

I agree. I mean after Ineos took those blows yesterday I think Jumbo are the strongest GC team left. So controlling the race shouldn't be as much of an issue now.

Depending on how Rogla feels, they need merely pick & choose where & when they want the jersey.

It's not about his team not being up to it, it's about taking the weight off of Ineos' shoulders.

 

[Rackham]

It's not about his team not being up to it, it's about taking the weight off of Ineos' shoulders.

I know. But Ineos carrying that 'weight' wasn't so good for Jumbo & the peloton yesterday. I reckon Rog's team have what it takes to control the bunch at the front in order to protect the leader.

It's about deciding when it's time to take responsibility because having the jersey is safer than sitting in the wheels of the (depleted) Ineos guys.

 

[glassmoon]

weather?

 

[Valv.Piti]

I'd put both Bouwman and Kuss waay above Oomen. I feel he's mostly with Jumbo to keep spirits up. (which isn't an unimportant role, and often even overlooked imo). But he won't be the one pulling Primoz up all those mountains.
I really love the dude though: he's funny and completely unfiltered when put in front of a camera.

So youre telling me he is Chris Anker Sørensen in the later stages of his career?

 

[Jagartrott]

weather?

Sources tell me there will indeed be weather today.

There may be some light rain, mainly on the hills. Today will be the 'best' day of the coming 3-4 days.

 

[Lequack]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1658854244131254279

View: https://twitter.com/OutOfCycling/status/1658854244131254279

 

[Rob5091]

Jumbo has been sitting at the back of the peleton on most stages. Crashs are inevitable and it looks like Roglic prefers to stay behind the chaos.

Did n't help a lot yesterday or for Ineos as Covi from UAE brought everyone down. "Belt and braces" approach for descending GC guys I would guess today. Look forward to entire QS team being in the break today.

 

[RedheadDane]

Did n't help a lot yesterday or for Ineos as Covi from UAE brought everyone down.

Otoh, quite nice of Covi to play "human cushion" for Thomas.

 

[pablohidalgo7]

I rate Bouwman as a much better climber than Oomen at the moment.

Of course and even Hessmann (the man is having his breakthrough as a domestique). In fact I trust more a possible "resurrection" of Dennis and Gloag in this race than Oomen.

 

[Ludwigzgz]

For what reason should Ineos allow Roglic's teammates to get into the break of the day?

 

[Armchair cyclist]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1658854244131254279

View: https://twitter.com/OutOfCycling/status/1658854244131254279

So much for the new/reintroduced Covid protocols.

 

[Lequack]

Covi also out.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1659104149475061760

View: https://twitter.com/TeamEmiratesUAE/status/1659104149475061760

 

[matteof93]

weather?

Light rain in Avigliana at the moment, this is the webcam on one of the 2 lakes of Avigliana. It is located exactly at the beginning of the climb.

 

[DNP-Old]

At this point, I'm more interested in seeing just how bad things can get in regards to active riders, rather than the actual racing itself. We'll be left with 120 something riders before the first mountain at this rate. Surely we're approaching some sort of record.

 

[matteof93]

At this point, I'm more interested in seeing just how bad things can get in regards to active riders, rather than the actual racing itself.

With the first 50 km on the winding roads of Langhe and the descent from Colle Braida, I would not be surprised in case some other GC rider has to abandon due to crash....especially since it is probably going to rain.