Giro d'Italia Giro d'Italia 2024: Stage-by-stage analysis

[Escarabajo]

Even though we might be a little annoyed about some of the profiles and startlist, at least the scenery alone always makes it worth watching, and look, at least we have this classic stage to look forward to!!;

This is what kills me. I see something like this and I get so upset and start having bad thoughts. I just don't get it. What is it that they saw with the other option????

 

[nbfc1962]

so is this intergiro checkpoints gonna give points for sprint classification and bonus seconds to the first 3? and there will be some separate point classification for the intergiro?

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Very grateful for the efforts of @Devil's Elbow to create this thread, it makes the forum so much better. However I feel like you create more work for yourself analysing the profiles of the dolomite stages more than 15 minutes in advance of the stages. It is only then that we will know the actual route.

 

[Netserk]

I hope I’ve managed a level of quality similar to what we’ve all grown used to, but you can be the judge of that.

GOAT

 

[King Of The Wolds]

Super write up, Cheers! It's like Eshnar never left.

This.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Caught up with the thread again, thank you all for the kind words!

 

[red_flanders]

Holy Bagioli, that's a tough start. Should be exciting from the get-go! Thanks Elbow for all your work here...

 

[Red Rick]

Oropa brings memories of spraining my knee ligament doing a football celebration when Dumo won it.

 

[Cookster15]

Incredible write up. Thank you.

I can see now why people are saying the route is disappointing from a racing perspective rather than TV pictures and also why this helps Pogacar's double attempt even more feasible. But there are still danger stages for him, and first he needs to avoid crashes. The weather may play a role.

Out of interest, @Devil's Elbow ,how long did this take to write up? I think I'd have to take a day off and do nothing else

 

[AnotherArmChair]

Great Giro profile @Devil's Elbow ... much appreciated

I had no clue of the route till now but maybe Pog will have it sown up on the first weekend Going to be a hard Giro for Rafa Mijka

First stage win ...Ganna Allaphilipe or Milan???

 

[Lequack]

Incredible write up. Thank you.

I can see now why people are saying the route is disappointing from a racing perspective rather than TV pictures and also why this helps Pogacar's double attempt even more feasible. But there are still danger stages for him, and first he needs to avoid crashes. The weather may play a role.

Out of interest, @Devil's Elbow ,how long did this take to write up? I think I'd have to take a day off and do nothing else

They actually made a route based on his writings. Like Moses.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

They actually made a route based on his writings. Like Moses.

You don't seem to have much faith in DE's race designing abilities then.

 

[topcat]

Thanks Mr. Elbow for a superb race preview. It captures the imagination and makes the blood throb in your veins. This race could be the GOAT (giro of all time).

 

[zlev11]

This is what kills me. I see something like this and I get so upset and start having bad thoughts. I just don't get it. What is it that they saw with the other option????

that would be a really great stage route but honestly it would be wasted on the bad quality of this field. at least saying that to myself helps me deal with it anyway.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Out of interest, @Devil's Elbow ,how long did this take to write up? I think I'd have to take a day off and do nothing else

Short answer: more than any sane person who's fitting it all in around a fulltime job would.

Long answer... The biggest thing that hampers me is that I'm a twenty-something who isn't from Italy, so almost all the historically-oriented stuff requires me looking it up (and then inevitably getting sidetracked reading up on related information I don't need for the posts). I will also make climb profiles myself when there aren't any available and I deem the climbs important enough (in this case thankfully only for two stages), for which I'll trawl geoportals of (in this case) Italian regions for topographic maps and/or digital elevation models and put the data in manually (because Google/OSM elevation data are really poor and export options from most geoportals are rather limited). Then add in the writing itself and finding usable images and it becomes pretty time-consuming. Don't have a good estimate for how much time I've spent on this in total, but the most time-intensive stages will take me an hour or more. And before anyone asks, I spend far less time per stage on normal OPs because I stick to the technical side of things there.

 

[zlev11]

Short answer: more than any sane person who's fitting it all in around a fulltime job would.

Long answer... The biggest thing that hampers me is that I'm a twenty-something who isn't from Italy, so almost all the historically-oriented stuff requires me looking it up (and then inevitably getting sidetracked reading up on related information I don't need for the posts). I will also make climb profiles myself when there aren't any available and I deem the climbs important enough (in this case thankfully only for two stages), for which I'll trawl geoportals of (in this case) Italian regions for topographic maps and/or digital elevation models and put the data in manually (because Google/OSM elevation data are really poor and export options from most geoportals are rather limited). Then add in the writing itself and finding usable images and it becomes pretty time-consuming. Don't have a good estimate for how much time I've spent on this in total, but the most time-intensive stages will take me an hour or more. And before anyone asks, I spend far less time per stage on normal OPs because I stick to the technical side of things there.

you did a great job, I really enjoyed it and thanks for keeping the tradition going.

 

[Forever The Best]

Great preview. A shame the mountain stages are so weak, because the first week or so is actually solid.

 

[Gigs_98]

Really really happy someone made a thread. Such a great tradition that is being continued here.

Concerning the route, I agree that picking out the placement of the Stelvio as a main argument for criticism of the route is stupid. In fact I actually think the placement is really interesting. That stage is taylor made to have a hectic start, maybe a split on the descent leading to a really high pace on the first km's of the Stelvio. And all of that at high altitude coming off a rest day. That's such a perfect recipe for a gc rider to crack on the Stelvio, leading to a massive chase throughout the stage.

I'm not prediciting this will happen, these kind of scenarios are always less likely to play out than not. But to the extent that you can set up such a situation, this stage is doing it.

 

[BigCoward]

The board formally recognises your commitment to do this every year indefinitely.

 

[Rob5091]

Thanks for the time and effort put into doing the thread!
One quick point, who the heck thought it was a great idea to have a descent down to the finish with a twist and a turn on the way, on STAGE 1! I hope it does not rain otherwise it'll be carnage.

 

[SafeBet]

Here you can download the Garibaldi (Giro roadbook with all stage details): https://giroditalia.wetransfer.com/downloads/1f269e4a4ce903b329a03de2e27cff1e20240426060828/78a349

Can't find a rulebook with all regulations. Does anybody know where to find it?

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

Holy cow.
I hereby submit a leave due to illness for my work and a break from the house remodeling project in the period 4-26. May.
Giro fever.
It will be a mortal sin for me to miss this version. Almost 75% of the target cities and most of the routes I have visited through the 00s via trips to northern Italy and visits deep into southern Italy, where my wife has somewhat distant relatives.

And the OP?
We're back to Hitch highs!

 

[DoYouEvenRideBruh]

I don't know what people are on about. The race is wide open, with so many questions to be answered.

For example: will Pogi win five, four, or only three stages? Will he put hours into his opposition, or will he keep the Double goal in mind and win by mere minutes?

I, for one, can't wait to find out.

 

[ice&fire]

Even though we might be a little annoyed about some of the profiles and startlist, at least the scenery alone always makes it worth watching, and look, at least we have this classic stage to look forward to!!;

This is a stage I'd rather look backwards.

 

[Laplaz]

Here you can download the Garibaldi (Giro roadbook with all stage details): https://giroditalia.wetransfer.com/downloads/1f269e4a4ce903b329a03de2e27cff1e20240426060828/78a349

Can't find a rulebook with all regulations. Does anybody know where to find it?

I searched for it, but couldn't find anything. If I am informed correctly, bonus seconds will be awarded at the Intergiro, at the 2nd intermediate sprint and at the finish. For the first two it's just 3-2-1 seconds of course. The Intergiro sprint counts also for the maglia ciclamino obviously.