Giro d'Italia Giro d'Italia 2024: Stage-by-stage analysis

[Red Rick]

If the whole spring is cold and wet (like 2023 and 2024) you have little to no time for the road maintanance work which is required, and you still get extremely cold days with temperature close to 0 on top (happened this week, ie the last week of the race). Bad road conditions + freezing temperatures is a no no for the EWP, as proven multiple times at the Giro in the last few years.
I'm 99% confident that the current peloton would have refused to ride Colle delle Finestre this week.

Besides, any plan B in the area would look absolutely dreadful compared to the original route, assuming a stage finish in Sestriere or Bardonecchia.

I think theres a big difference between cutting early climbs vs cutting decisive climbs. I suspect they think they get away with a lot more if its early climbs canceled rwther than climbs the fans have looked forward to seeing the entire year

Road surface issues are on the climbs amd not the descent as well

Last year they were worried about Croix de Coeur and then had GSB canceled, and then in 2021 doing Giau was never in question despite cold and rain

By the way how cold was Stelvio 2020?

 

[SafeBet]

I think theres a big difference between cutting early climbs vs cutting decisive climbs. I suspect they think they get away with a lot more if its early climbs canceled rwther than climbs the fans have looked forward to seeing the entire year

Road surface issues are on the climbs amd not the descent as well

Last year they were worried about Croix de Coeur and then had GSB canceled, and then in 2021 doing Giau was never in question despite cold and rain

By the way how cold was Stelvio 2020?

-1° / 3°, with no precipitations.
The infamous Morbegno - Asti was scheduled the day after, I guess you remember it

 

[ashhutch1997]

I fear that under the current circumstances (Giro starting early May + strict application of the EWP + riders fully aware they can decide not to start) RCS will gradually shy away from using climbs over 2000 as a pass, let alone a pass involving 8 km of sterrato.
And sadly that's the sensible thing to do.

Just give us awesome low altitude routes like 2015.

 

[Red Rick]

Just give is awesome low altitude routes like 2015.

Laughs in Crostis cancellation.

But would going further south help i.e. Fauniera (FAUNIERAAAAA!!!!)

 

[Mayomaniac]

Just have the Giro start 1-2 weeks later and most of the problems will dissapear.
But the UCI-ASO is against it, because Dauphine. Honestly, they could totally have the Dauphine and the TdS at the same time.

 

[Netserk]

Just have the Giro start 1-2 weeks later and most of the problems will dissapear.
But the UCI-ASO is against it, because Dauphine. Honestly, they could totally have the Dauphine and the TdS at the same time.

Just have Dauphiné start the same Sunday that the Giro ends. It's a total non-issue.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Just have Dauphiné start the same Sunday that the Giro ends. It's a total non-issue.

That's what RCS are pushing for, but apparently the UCI is against it (I assume ASO is behind it).
I agree with you, that would be the best solution.

 

[Max Rockatansky]

Just have the Giro start 1-2 weeks later and most of the problems will dissapear.
But the UCI-ASO is against it, because Dauphine. Honestly, they could totally have the Dauphine and the TdS at the same time.

I really don't get this from ASO. You could design the first stage of Dauphiné in a way, that they wouldn't clash timewise. With a prologue or a stage that finishes around 14:30. I mean honestly, nobody cares about the Dauphiné's first stage.

Until 2001 the Giro finished at the end of the first week of June. In that year overall winner Gilberto Simoni finished the Giro on June 10th and then started Tour de Suisse on the 19th. He finished second there.

Dauphiné was in between the two races. From 10th to 17th. So there were even rider who did both Dauphiné and Suisse. It was a thing in the 80ies. But in those times there were a lot of normal stages in those races. So it was doable.

With the Summer Games it's difficult this year. But in normal years it would be easy to do it like that. And TdF would have to start a bit later.

 

[Froome]

I fear that under the current circumstances (Giro starting early May + strict application of the EWP + riders fully aware they can decide not to start) RCS will gradually shy away from using climbs over 2000 as a pass, let alone a pass involving 8 km of sterrato.
And sadly that's the sensible thing to do.

They still can do better than this, with hard climbs like mortirolo(hard side), Zoncolan, Alpe de siusi, riffugio panarota, plan montecampione, alpe di pampeago, alpe di siusi, blockhaus, passo coe.

 

[SafeBet]

That's what RCS are pushing for, but apparently the UCI is against it (I assume ASO is behind it).
I agree with you, that would be the best solution.

Concur with both, it's the only logical solution.

 

[ashhutch1997]

Just have the Giro start 1-2 weeks later and most of the problems will dissapear.
But the UCI-ASO is against it, because Dauphine. Honestly, they could totally have the Dauphine and the TdS at the same time.

The Giro's in the 90's used to start in the last week of May and would run deep into June.

 

[Unchained]

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NbxuCqHu69k

 

[Sciatic]

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NbxuCqHu69k

I thought it was a pizza . . .