Giro d'Italia Giro d'Italia 2025 Stage 10: Lucca – Pisa (Time Trial)

[Cycling111]

Caruso is 1 second behind Gee. Caruso will probably have to ride for Tiberi but otherwise he would soundly trounce Gee.

Gee is included in the poll of the most overrated rider?

I never understood why some people would consider him a candidate for the Giro podium.

 

[Red Rick]

Gee is included in the poll of the most overrated rider?

I never understood why some people would consider him a candidate for the Giro podium.

I believe it's some sort of metacommentary on Geraint Thomas winning the Tour as his first GT top 10.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Ethan Hayter with a legendary stage podium

Hatewatchers in shambles

 

[Red Rick]

Whoever said Tiberi did a terrible T2-Finish split, he was still 10s faster than Ayuso.

 

[EddyMazzoleni]

Whoever said Tiberi did a terrible T2-Finish split, he was still 10s faster than Ayuso.

Ayuso slowed down near the finish, maybe he overpushed it in the central split where he was insanely fast. On the other hand Tiberi was *** in the first split, although that is probably beacuase he is a bad bike handler.

I believe it's some sort of metacommentary on Geraint Thomas winning the Tour as his first GT top 10.

Did he not get a top 10 at last year TdF?

 

[Red Rick]

Ayuso slowed down near the finish, maybe he overpushed it in the central split where he was insanely fast.


Did he not get a top 10 at last year TdF?

It's mainly more that Thomas kind of came out of nowhere, and Gee is a similarly sized rider. I think the timeline is that @Netserk started manifesting GC Gee into existence during/after the Dauphine last year.

 

[Potomac]

Gee is included in the poll of the most overrated rider?

I never understood why some people would consider him a candidate for the Giro podium.

It's the maple syrup!

I think he's a serious top 10 candidate.

 

[topcat]

one of Gee's support riders Nick Schultz bombed stage 7 and came in 7.30 down. He was so bad that he wasn't even offered arrosticini sticks by the fans. However, he threw his water bottle and scored a goal-back of the net- in the water bottle collector. He received a massive ovation and said "it's some consolation for the way the stage has gone".

 

[Rackham]

I know you're a fan but it's quite clear Roglic had the best conditions of these guys. The others finished in pouring rain! A bit of realism can't hurt.

I am realistic. I literally watched the guys tiptoe down the descent in the middle part in wet conditions whilst Ayuso bombed down there 20 minutes later on quasi dry roads. Hence the second intermediate split in Ayuso's favor versus Rog.

Realism cuts both ways.

 

[EddyMazzoleni]

It's mainly more that Thomas kind of came out of nowhere, and Gee is a similarly sized rider. I think the timeline is that @Netserk started manifesting GC Gee into existence during/after the Dauphine last year.

Credit to Netserk then, he was kind of right, in the sense that he is a second half of tp ten GC rider. But for him to podium he need to find the right breakaway

 

[Lequack]

Lanterne rouge podcast

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaD4E7OvWwo

 

[Red Rick]

 

[broppo]

So ayuso completely blew up last part of the tt. The weather can not be the only explanation for that. Since tiberi had similar conditions. He lost like 30 secs in 8 km to roglic

 

[Brullnux]

Whoever said Tiberi did a terrible T2-Finish split, he was still 10s faster than Ayuso.

The top three were all very slow as it was really hammering it down in that final section – Ayuso, Del Toro, and Tiberi all made the right decision in sacrificing time to make sure of staying upright.

 

[AlfaLum]

It is impossible to draw many conclusions from this TT.

We know that Ayuso was better than Del Toro and thats about it.

Comparing Roglic with Ayuso is impossible. Conditions changed too much with Roglic being favoured by conditions within the Lucca and Pisa part and Ayuso being favoured by conditions in the middle part of the course.

 

[Rackham]

BTW if someone wants to play the "lucky Rog" card, I'd say the only thing that's pretty much obvious on that front right now this evening is UAE sort of messed up Sunday's stage considering what could have been achieved there after Rog's mechanical.

He could easily still be over two minutes behind Ayuso instead of under a minute. The implication was that somehow Del Toro was the new Pogi or something and was a proper GC card yet his time loss today was way more severe than expected tbh.

 

[Brullnux]

So ayuso completely blew up last part of the tt. The weather can not be the only explanation for that. Since tiberi had similar conditions. He lost like 30 secs in 8 km to roglic

It was probably the weather, he still gained on Del Toro and only lost ten seconds to Tiberi.

 

[acm]

Every f* time.

 

[Lequack]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1924866303145209972

View: https://x.com/1ddenis1/status/1924866303145209972

 

[HashRouge]

This isn't really Giro related, but it's come from my renewed love of Egan Bernal. Does anyone know if he's likely to ride the Tour? I know it wouldn't be as leader, but I wonder if he might go as a mountain domestique for Rodriguez? If so I shall be buying myself a Colombian flag and trying to find a reproduction of that national champs jersey. Fully signed up member of the Bernal fan club here.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

So Roglic gained time today, good day for him GC-wise. The difference between his and Ayuso was rather small (as expected) but Ayuso lost like 30 seconds in the last section (worse conditions or he just ran out of power?). Del Toro lost like 20-30 seconds more than I expected, not an impressive TT by him. The GC is now closer and both Rogla and Ayuso gained ground vs the rest. Simon Yates and Tiberi also with good time-trials, they are very much in the game for podium spots. Other guys (like Carapaz, Bernal, Ciccone) lost quite a lot and will face an uphill battle for top3.

 

[Red Rick]

So Roglic gained time today, good day for him GC-wise. The difference between his and Ayuso was rather small (as expected) but Ayuso lost like 30 seconds in the last section (worse conditions or he just ran out of power?). Del Toro lost like 20-30 seconds more than I expected, not an impressive TT by him. The GC is now closer and both Rogla and Ayuso gained ground vs the rest. Yates and Tiberi also with good time-trials, they are very much in the game for podium spots. Other guys (like Carapaz, Bernal, Ciccone) lost quite a lot and will face an uphill battle for top3.

Ayuso had much worse weather in the final sector, but he also very clearly blew himself up.

Overall, I don't doubt Roglic had better conditions, but this is offset by Ayuso being a better rain rider, and if it had been dry I would expect the gap to be bigger than 19 seconds.

 

[Cycling111]

It is impossible to draw many conclusions from this TT.

We know that Ayuso was better than Del Toro and thats about it.

Comparing Roglic with Ayuso is impossible. Conditions changed too much with Roglic being favoured by conditions within the Lucca and Pisa part and Ayuso being favoured by conditions in the middle part of the course.

Ayuso lost 35-40 seconds againts Roglic in other time trials in GT.

Ayuso lost 16 seconds against Roglic in Albania in 13 km. Today, he lost 19 seconds in 28 km.
Only 3 seconds more in 15km

Each of them had different conditions, but I think Ayuso's were worse.
The fact that he lost only 3 seconds more than he did in Albania in 15km more is significant.

 

[AmRacer]

Ayuso lost 35-40 seconds againts Roglic in other time trials in GT.

Ayuso lost 16 seconds against Roglic in Albania in 13 km. Today, he lost 19 seconds in 28 km.
Only 3 seconds more in 15km

Each of them had different conditions, but I think Ayuso's were worse.
The fact that he lost only 3 seconds more than he did in Albania in 15km more is significant.

Ayuso had partly better conditions.

 

[Cycling111]

Ayuso had partly better conditions.

I disagree.
If you go to X, almost everyone says that Ayuso and those who start with him had worse conditions.

In any case, for Roglic's sake, I hope it's because he didn't want to take risks and that this doesn't reflect the physical difference between them and a tendency, because the difference in Albania was higher.
In Albania, Ayuso seemed weaker than Roglic; in the stage he won, he seemed somewhat superior to Roglic, and today, he achieved his best result against Roglic in a time trial like this.