Giro d'Italia Giro d'Italia 2025, Stage 11: Viareggio > Castelnovo ne’ Monti (186 km)

[Cycling111]

Nice one Richard!!

Del Toro easily in the sprint. Looking back if he could brake for Ayuso if he was there.

Ayuso seemed exhausted on the previous climb.
Free Del Toro.

Roglic is going to win the Giro because of the UAE's ego battle.
This is possibly Roglic's toughest week; they could´ve made him suffer today.
Roglic will be in top form next week.

 

[Unchained]

The question is how he'll do in week 3 and how he'll fare with hard mountain stages in succession. His recovery will be put to the test.

All big riders complain about the pink pressure!! You have to talk with media for extra 45 minutes, you have unwanted attention at hotel, bus, warm up, cool down.. In 3rd week all the extra everything likely to weigh on 21 year old Del Toro..

 

[AlfaLum]

When Ayuso started out everyone said he was the new Pog. Now everyone says Del Toro is the new Pog. There's always a new Pog that isn't.

Ayuso is 22 and already an amazing rider that can compete for GT victories and has already won WT races.

Del Toro now has a major breakthrough being the strongest in a GT over the first 12 stages. Hè has also already done some ridicolously good races both as domestique and for himself.

They dont need the new Pogacar narrative as they are both extremely talented riders on their own that are challenging for the absolute top of mondial racing. But they should write their own stories without the references to other riders, no matter how the story unfolds.

 

[AnotherArmChair]

Listening Quintana is like listening an ancient born 300 years ago.

He was born 300 years ago...When he was young he was old and now that he older he he is still old and hasn't changed a bit
He probably came out of some El Dorado in the Colombian mountains one day and just starting cycling up and down mountains

 

[Unchained]

** information only** in studio Eurosport French language team is the best period, Jacky Durand and Philippe Gilbert are unrivaled.. And someone tell Alberto Contador, stop with the " texured" jeans with holes!! You are not 13 years old!!

 

[movingtarget]

Well timed attack by Carapaz. Once had had a 20 second lead it never looked in doubt. Roglic showed no interest in sprinting for the bonuses.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Listening Quintana is like listening an ancient born 300 years ago.

He probably sounded like that the day he uttered his very first words as a child, must have really freaked his parents out.

 

[red_flanders]

Brilliant win by Carapaz. Great stage. Good fun.

Agreed! I guess the terrible course isn't as bad as some folks have been saying.

 

[Boehmand]

Listening Quintana is like listening an ancient born 300 years ago.

He probably sounded like that the day he uttered his very first words as a child, must have really freaked his parents out.

He came out of the womb 70 years old

 

[Unchained]

Ayuso is 22 and already an amazing rider that can content for GT victories and has already won WT races.

Del Toro now has a major breakthrough being the strongest in a GT over the first 12 stages. Hè has also already done some ridicolously good races both as domestique and for himself.

They dont need the new Pogacar narrative as they are both extremely talented riders on their own that are challenging for the absolute top of mondial racing. But they should write their own stories without the references to other riders, no matter how the story unfolds.

In real life ,stuff $%!t happens and Pogacar is a little older, lots of close calls, crashes without serious side effects. UAE has good stable, with multiple early 20 something stallions. Del Toro has been going out of his way, including a few minutes ago to speak respectfully about teammates. He does have some details incorrect, keeps saying " older" riders and including Ayuso, who as you noted is a year older, hardly an elder statesman by any stretch.
So maybe it's just subconscious order that Del Toro feels slightly behind the others. No matter what order everyone is better as a whole, Pogacar is obvious beneficiary, he has best support in the business.
One thing that doesn't get much mention is how often, skinny Del Toro finds himself contesting sprints, and with Pidcock giving Pedersen a look in early stage, the fact that Del Toro squirted passed him is impressive. Don't know if his climbing or TTs are Pogacar comparable but his sprinting is decent.

 

[Peyroteo94]

In real life ,stuff $%!t happens and Pogacar is a little older, lots of close calls, crashes without serious side effects. UAE has good stable, with multiple early 20 something stallions. Del Toro has been going out of his way, including a few minutes ago to speak respectfully about teammates. He does have some details incorrect, keeps saying " older" riders and including Ayuso, who as you noted is a year older, hardly an elder statesman by any stretch.
So maybe it's just subconscious order that Del Toro feels slightly behind the others. No matter what order everyone is better as a whole, Pogacar is obvious beneficiary, he has best support in the business.
One thing that doesn't get much mention is how often, skinny Del Toro finds himself contesting sprints, and with Pidcock giving Pedersen a look in early stage, the fact that Del Toro squirted passed him is impressive. Don't know if his climbing or TTs are Pogacar comparable but his sprinting is decent.

His TT will never be as good as Pogacar IMHO. He doesn't have the ability to win TTs or be top5 consistently.

 

[zlev11]

carapaz kicks ass

 

[noob]

** information only** in studio Eurosport French language team is the best period, Jacky Durand and Philippe Gilbert are unrivaled.. And someone tell Alberto Contador, stop with the " texured" jeans with holes!! You are not 13 years old!!

Nah he has the look for "younger" fashion! It looks at home on him imo.

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

Fell asleep, woke up and just managed to press stop and jump back to 20km to go before I could hear or see who'd won.
So happy it's Carapaz! He'll finish on the podium! You'll see!

 

[EddyMazzoleni]

Amazing win by Carapaz.
UAE looked strong has a team, but today Roglic looked a little better than other days.
Also nice to see that Bernal was not too affected by the gnarly crash.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

He came out of the womb 70 years old

He's always looked much older than he is, he sounds old, he's stoic and rarely cracks a smile... while I can imagine having a fun beer with Mads having one with Nairo would probably be a lot more quiet and awkward.

Happy he had a good day on the bike today though, he's not completely over the hill yet.

 

[noob]

He's always looked much older than he is, he sounds old, he's stoic and rarely cracks a smile... while I can imagine having a beer with Mads having one with Nairo would probably be a lot more quiet and awkward.

Happy he had a good day on the bike today though, he's not completely over the hill yet.

I can't help linking this again

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp7J9fqhmo8

 

[Roku]

Nice stage. Could have been carnage if this was 18th stage rather than 11th.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

I can't help linking this again

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp7J9fqhmo8

What am I looking at here? Is that actually Nairo under that mask?

 

[noob]

What am I looking at here? Is that actually Nairo under that mask?

Yup I think so as he's in this costume here when he's out of it

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5Izx-prXyo

 

[Krzysztof_O]

So a nice win by Carapaz and a bit of time gained in the GC. There was actually something going on on the last climb! Del Toro even tried, wow. He failed but surely looked strong and gained 6'' of bonus at the end. The race is very much on but unfortunately the remaining stages in the second week are so meh...

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Yup I think so as he's in this costume here when he's out of it

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5Izx-prXyo

Ha! So Nairoman can actually be pretty chill when not on the bike, pretty cool!

 

[Rackham]

So a nice win by Carapaz and a bit of time gained in the GC. There was actually something going on on the last climb! Del Toro even tried, wow. He failed but surely looked strong and gained 6'' of bonus at the end. The race is very much on but unfortunately the remaining stages in the second week are so meh...

Call me paranoid but I believe Del Toro was trying to bait Rog so Ayuso could counter. It was all a bit too theatrical and overly performative IMO.

Like "look everyone I'm attacking hey Primož do you see this?"

 

[Potomac]

UAE was foolish to lead the chase to Carapaz. He was in 9th place on GC, with four other teams that would have defended their positions ahead of him.

 

[yaco]

Trek is racing absolutely fantastic!! Including a 3rd place today with ST sprint time.. And big factor was flatlander sacrifice!!
Pedersen absolutely smashing the pedals bringing break back!! Trek winning 40% of the stages so far and getting micro gain for Ciccone when there looked to be nothing there!!
Dumbest team award, in fact all podium places today goes to UAE!!
And if it's to be putting clowns in order, Yates, Ayuso, and McNulty all in hall of shame making Del Toro in pink pace himself, close gaps himself, attempt to jump across himself!! And the goon moves include burning Rafal Majka out of order, should have been Yates and McNulty used first , Majka( old man) doing long base pulls and pulling off after he explodes , should be different order!!
Del Toro may come up short skill for skill with Ayuso but he has 1000% more heart..3rd second place finish in this Giro, 2 being identical as he wins sprint while letting off gas!!

Micro-gain for Ciccone? he lost 16 seconds to Carapaz because of Lidl's tactics. And if they got the tactics right in stage nine they would have taken another minute from Roglic. They've been too greedy and forgot about their GC rider.