Giro d'Italia Giro D'Italia 2025 Stage 9: Gubbio – Siena (181km)

[Taxus4a]

Nice stage! I think WVA Will be in the right for the stage, if he choose the right position for that, I mean, the break or the peloton. Pidcock is still on GC, so any time he get is important, but for Van Aert just victory is important. For Perdersen similar, but he is less favourite with that slopes are the end...so you never knows wich is the best, tob wait tll the end or to try to be one the break. Other people as Vacek can win, the list is wide.
For GC...UAE has an strong team, but It doent look that Del Toro are going to sacrifice for Ayuso. Both of them are fovourites for today stage. Bernal and Carapaz can try something. Not the best stage for them, but not bad.

 

[Gratemans]

if he choose the right position for that

Well, there's your problem..

 

[Cycling111]

Ayuso performed really bad on the Troyes stage of the Tour.

Today we'll see if it was because he's not good at gravel, or if his poor positioning and alleged problems were due to him wanting to avoid helping his team.

 

[Taxus4a]

Ayuso performed really bad on the Troyes stage of the Tour.

Today we'll see if it was because he's not good at gravel, or if his poor positioning and alleged problems were due to his lack of support for his team.

He is good at sterrato. Today stage is quite good for him, he is a similar rider as Pogacar ( no so good, Pogacar is historic, but quite close)

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Dries De Bondt will win this stage.

 

[Cycling111]

He is good at sterrato. Today stage is quite good for him, he is a similar rider as Pogacar ( no so good, Pogacar is historic, but quite close)

He's good at gravel, but he was the worst on his team in Troyes.

That means he put on an act to avoid helping this team.
He looked really bad that day.

 

[movingtarget]

He spoke about this on a podcast two years ago. Practiced the finale several times as he knew the course was perfect for him. He would have done more damage if he had peaked for the Giro that year too.

He also had some bad luck in that Giro and had to contend with Nibali and Basso on the same team and both in very good form. Arroyo was one of the surprises of that Giro. He rode very well including on the Montalcino stage.. Vinokourov rode well but I never saw him as a threat to Basso especially in the mountains.

 

[ashhutch1997]

Such stage doesn't really belong in a GT race

Pretty much all GT had stages like this everyday up to the 1970's.

 

[YavorD]

I am really looking forward to this stage.
I think it will decisive for this Giro. If we see a great stage and plenty of gaps, ideally some of the favourites dropping 1-2 minutes, we may see a good Giro.

 

[Taxus4a]

He's good at gravel, but he was the worst on his team in Troyes.

That means he put on an act to avoid helping this team.
He looked really bad that day.

Ayuso left that Tour 3 days later but COVID. Considering that and the problems with the team, I dont think is possible to take any good conclusión about him that Tour except that he was climbing with the best at Galibier. Maybe he is not very good at a flat cobbles stage similar to Roubaix, but anyway Strade Bianche is quite different to that. That are some technich descents, but far from the finish, some long sterratos that maybe is not the best for him, I am not sure, but similar for most of the GC Riders except for Pidcock...and the decissive parts are climbs on sterrato and in normal roads that for sure suit him very well...as to Del Toro, Roglic, etc...

 

[SafeBet]

Pidcock to RAI: "gonna be harder to be aggressive today compared to Strade Bianche because most GC teams will try to ride defensively."

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

Just bumped in after having a closer look at today's stage, imported route to my Giro Google Earth Project, panning, fast 3D angle zooming. street view angles, impression of the steep hairy descents and climbs, etc.

Especially the final 40k before they hit Siena is really Bianche galore!
And just checked the weather forecast. Sunny.
A must see for me today!

 

[Gratemans]

Pidcock to RAI: "gonna be harder to be aggressive today compared to Strade Bianche because most GC teams will try to ride defensively."

Yep, I was thinking the same. Aren't there also a lot less climbs compared to the original Strade parcours?

 

[Tim Cahill]

Can’t wait for 60 guys to arrive at the final, those narrow streets aren’t designed for such a group.

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

Pidcock to RAI: "gonna be harder to be aggressive today compared to Strade Bianche because most GC teams will try to ride defensively."

The GC teams are in for a nasty surprise if they think they can control the peleton.
Especially after they leave Ponte d'Arbia with ~55k togo and right to the finish line.

 

[SafeBet]

Yep, I was thinking the same. Aren't there also a lot less climbs compared to the original Strade parcours?

Compared to nowadays Strade Bianche, yeah. Perhaps a little more similar to earlier editions.
Pedersen and Van Aert definitely have a chance if not forced to work for their GC riders.

 

[Scarponi]

He also had some bad luck in that Giro and had to contend with Nibali and Basso on the same team and both in very good form. Arroyo was one of the surprises of that Giro. He rode very well including on the Montalcino stage.. Vinokourov rode well but I never saw him as a threat to Basso especially in the mountains.

Basso was in insane form. Evans went through that era where he used the Giro as training, ended up winning stages like the dirt and following Basso on Zoncalon. Wish he peaked for giro but alas all ancient history

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

Yep, I was thinking the same. Aren't there also a lot less climbs compared to the original Strade parcours?

Indeed alot fewer climbs.
But luckily not everything on a route is counted by a grateful stage profile alone.
It is, to put it mildly, "hairy" for the last many kilometers.
That would be equivalent to using the same reasoning to say that it is impossible to create a difference in P-R because you cannot see climbs on the route profile.

 

[Taxus4a]

Can’t wait for 60 guys to arrive at the final, those narrow streets aren’t designed for such a group.

If a big group like that IS at the finales wont not a group fighteen for victory. There are sone sterrato descents at the middel of the stage,that I think could be a problem.

 

[search]

Koen Bouwman "fell sick overnight" and is a DNS today.

Whether he had joined Plapp and Hepburn for their Aussie style victory celebration yesterday, isn't known yet.

 

[KZD]

I just hope that Bernal doesn't have bad luck and Del Toro doesn't have to wait for Ayuso.

 

[Red Rick]

Looking up current weather on Windy and the webcam of Siena is right on the finish line lol

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[Boehmand]

Pedersen saying in a pre-stage interview, that the main objective today is to keep Ciccone safe - but that Vacek has the freedom to go for the stage.

Mielke then asks Pedersen "so we will see Vacek attack today?", to which Pedersen replies "yes - or SOMEONE else" - with a big grin and a wink

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Wout said in interview he's looking forward to this stage and is free to ride for himself, let's go Wout!

 

[Red Rick]

Wout said in interview he's looking forward to this stage and is free to ride for himself, let's go Wout!

Can spend the first 2 hours making Selfish Wout van Aert memes then.