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Giro D'italia manager game

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We have the great grand tour game, the CQ ranking game, the prediction game etc, but here is another game, a manager game for the Giro d'Italia.

You are in charge of a team. You need to have a list of 15 riders and cannot spend more than $6,500,000 on the team.

I was originally going to have it that you send in a squad of 9 at the beginning of each stage which will score you points, but for one person to manage, that is going to be too hard to keep track of.

At the start of the competition you are to submit 9 riders from your 15 who will score you points at the end of the race. Points are as follows:

General Classification

1: 50 points
2: 30 points
3: 20 points
4: 18 points
5: 15 points
6: 10 points
7: 9 points
8: 8 points
9: 7 points
10: 6 points
11: 5 points
12: 4 points
13: 3 points
14: 2 points
15: 1 point

Points Classification

1: 50 points
2: 30 points
3: 20 points
4: 18 points
5: 15 points
6: 10 points
7: 9 points
8: 8 points
9: 7 points
10: 6 points
11: 5 points
12: 4 points
13: 3 points
14: 2 points
15: 1 point

Mountains Classification

1: 50 points
2: 30 points
3: 20 points
4: 18 points
5: 15 points
6: 10 points
7: 9 points
8: 8 points
9: 7 points
10: 6 points
11: 5 points
12: 4 points
13: 3 points
14: 2 points
15: 1 point

Young Rider Classification

1: 50 points
2: 30 points
3: 20 points
4: 18 points
5: 15 points
6: 10 points
7: 9 points
8: 8 points
9: 7 points
10: 6 points
11: 5 points
12: 4 points
13: 3 points
14: 2 points
15: 1 point

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Your squad of 15 will score points on every stage except the team time trial. This points format follows the points classification structure.

Winner: 25 points
2nd: 20 points
3rd: 16 points
4th: 14 points
5th: 12 points
6th: 10 points
7th: 9 points
8th: 8 points
9th: 7 points
10th: 6 points
11th: 5 points
12th: 4 points
13th: 3 points
14th: 2 points
15th: 1 point

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You get 2 joker cards for the race. They are worth double points. Prior to stage 1 you need to nominate what stages the joker cards will apply for.

Also at the end of each day, the jersey holders will score points.

Overall: 20 points
Points: 20 points
KOM: 20 points
Youth: 20 points

Yes, if you have riders leading these categories after the stages you used your jokers on, they will be double points.

So it's all about being strategic.

You have up until Saturday 7th of May 1800AEST to submit your squad of 15 riders, your 9 riders to score points at the end of the race and your two joker cards.

I will not be updating the team standings every day as it's too much work for one person but you will get to know your standings a couple times per week.

I will allow a maximum of 40 entries.

You are to PM me your entries. Once you submit your entry, it's final. There will be no changes. So it's best to wait until Friday or Saturday to submit your team.

Declare your interest in this thread. The first 40 are in.
 
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Riders Salaries

Alberto Contador - $1,000,000
Michele Scarponi - $800,000
Vincenzo Nibali - $800,000
Denis Menchov - $750,000
Mark Cavendish - $750,000
Joaquin Rodriguez - $700,000
Alessandro Petacchi - $650,000
Igor Anton - $600,000
Tyler Farrar - $500,000
Emanuelle Sella - $500,000
Roman Kreuziger - $400,000
Carlos Sastre - $400,000
David Arroyo - $400,000
Stefano Garzelli - $350,000
Tiago Machado - $350,000
Jose Rujano - $350,000
Thomas Lovkvist - $300,000
Christope Le Mevel - $300,000
Jose Serpa - $200,000
Danilo Di Luca - $200,000
Domenico Pozzovivo - $200,000
Graeme Brown - $200,000
John Gadret - $200,000
Marco Pinotti - $200,000
Rinaldo Nocentini - $200,000
Yaroslav Popovych - $200,000
Richie Porte - $200,000
Giovanni Visconti - $150,000
Marzio Bruseghin - $150,000
Robbie McEwen - $150,000
Gustav Larsson - $150,000
Brice Feillu - $150,000
Cyril Dessel - $150,000
David Blanco - $150,000
David Millar - $150,000
Frederik Kessiakoff - $150,000
Gerald Ciolek - $150,000
Jerome Pineau - $150,000
Kantantsin Sivtsov - $150,000
Kevin Seeldraeyers - $150,000
Manuel Belletti - $150,000
Paolo Tiralongo - $150,000
Wouter Weylandt - $150,000
Branislau Samoilau - $150,000
Danilo Napolitano - $150,000
Mikael Cherel - $120,000
Alex Rasmussen - $120,000
Bram Tankink - $120,000
Carlos Ochoa - $120,000
Daniel Moreno - $120,000
Dario Cataldo - $120,000
Eros Capecchi - $120,000
Evgeny Petrov - $120,000
Fabian Wegmann - $120,000
Fabio Duarte - $120,000
Hubert Dupont - $120,000
Jackson Rodriguez - $120,000
Juan Jose Cobo - $120,000
Lars Bak - $120,000
Lars Petter Nordhaug - $120,000
Laurent Didier - $120,000
Marco Marzano - $120,000
Mikel Nieve - $120,000
Morris Possoni - $120,000
Oscar Gatto - $120,000
Philip Deignan - $120,000
Pieter Weening - $120,000
Rafael Valls - $120,000
Robert Kiserlovski - $120,000
Sacha Modolo - $120,000
Sebastian Lang - $120,000
Sylvester Szmyd - $120,000
Thomas Rohregger - $120,000
Alessandro Donati - $100,000
Ben Hermans - $100,000
Borut Bozic - $100,000
Claudio Corioni - $100,000
Dario Cioni - $100,000
Francisco Ventoso - $100,000
Volodymir Gustov - $100,000
Alessandro De Marchi - $80,000
Adam Blythe - $80,000
Addy Engels - $80,000
Adriano Malori - $80,000
Alberto Losada - $80,000
Alberto Ongarato - $80,000
Aleksandr Kuchynski - $80,000
Alessandro Vanotti - $80,000
Alexander Kristoff - $80,000
Andrea Noe - $80,000
Andrey Amador - $80,000
Angel Vicioso - $80,000
Bart De Clercq - $80,000
Ben Gastauer - $80,000
Benjamin Noval - $80,000
Bruno Pires - $80,000
Cameron Meyer - $80,000
Cayetanto Jose Sarmiento Tunarrossa - $80,000
Chad Beyer - $80,000
Craig Lewis - $80,000
Cristiano Salerno - $80,000
Daniel Navarro - $80,000
Daniel Sesma - $80,000
Daniele Righi - $80,000
Danilo Hondo - $80,000
Danilo Wyss - $80,000
Davide Apollonio - $80,000
Davide Malacarne - $80,000
Davide Vigano - $80,000
Dennis Van Winden - $80,000
Diego Caccia - $80,000
Diego Ulissi - $80,000
Dmitry Kozontchuk - $80,000
Dominic Klemme - $80,000
Eduard Vorganov - $80,000
Fabio Sabatini - $80,000
Fabio Taborre - $80,000
Federico Canuti - $80,000
Federik Veuchelen - $80,000
Filippo Savini - $80,000
Francesco Failli - $80,000
Francesco Masciarelli - $80,000
Francis De Greef - $80,000
Frantisek Rabon - $80,000
Fumiyuki Beppu - $80,000
Gert Dockx - $80,000
Giairo Ermeti - $80,000
Giampaolo Caruso - $80,000
Giampaolo Cheula - $80,000
Gianluca Brambilla - $80,000
Gorazd Stangelj - $80,000
Inaki Isasi - $80,000
Ivan Rovny - $80,000
Jack Bobridge - $80,000
Jan Bakelandts - $80,000
Javier Francisco Aramendia - $80,000
Jesus Hernandez - $80,000
Johann Tschopp - $80,000
Johnny Hoogerland - $80,000
Jorge Azanza - $80,000
Jos Van Emden - $80,000
Josep Jufre - $80,000
Juan Horrach - $80,000
Juan Jose Oroz - $80,000
Julian Dean - $80,000
Julien Berard - $80,000
Jussi Veikkanen - $80,000
Kasper Klostergaard - $80,000
Kejell Calrstrom - $80,000
Klaas Lodewyck - $80,000
Kristof Vandewalle - $80,000
Leonardo Giordani - $80,000
Luca Mazzanti - $80,000
Luis Pasamontes - $80,000
Manuel Antonio Leal Cardoso - $80,000
Manuele Caddeo - $80,000
Marc De Maar - $80,000
Marco Bandiera - $80,000
Mark Renshaw - $80,000
Martin Kohler - $80,000
Massimo Codol - $80,000
Mathias Frank - $80,000
Matteo Carrara - $80,000
Matteo Montaguti - $80,000
Matteo Rabottini - $80,000
Matteo Tossato - $80,000
Matthew Wilson - $80,000
Mauricio Ardila - $80,000
Mauro Da Dalto - $80,000
Maxim Belkov - $80,000
Maxim Gourov - $80,000
Michael Barry - $80,000
Michal Golas - $80,000
Miguel Minguez - $80,000
Mirko Selvaggi - $80,000
Murilo Antonio Fischer - $80,000
Oliver Zaugg - $80,000
Olivier Kaisen - $80,000
Pablo Lastras - $80,000
Patrick Gretsch - $80,000
Pavul Brutt - $80,000
Peter Kennaugh - $80,000
Peter Stetina - $80,000
Pierre Cazaux - $80,000
Przemyslaw Niemiec - $80,000
Rick Flens - $80,000
Robert Hunter - $80,000
Roberto Ferrari - $80,000
Ruggero Marzoili - $80,000
Russell Downing - $80,000
Sergey Lagutin - $80,000
Sergio Pardilla - $80,000
Simon Spilak - $80,000
Simon Zahner - $80,000
Simone Stortoni - $80,000
Stefano Pirazzi - $80,000
Steven Kruijswijk - $80,000
Thomas Leezer - $80,000
Tiziano Dall'Antonio - $80,000
Tom Jelte Slagter - $80,000
Tom Stamsnijder - $80,000
Valerio Agnoli - $80,000
Vasili Kirienka - $80,000
Vladimir Miholvejic - $80,000
Yuriy Krivtsov - $80,000
 
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Team Standings

1. Sasquatch
2. Raceoftruth
3. Hugo Koblet
4. The Hitch
5. Armchair Cyclist
6. Jakob747
7. Search

8. Timmy-loves-Rabo
9. Tuarts
10. AntonioRossi
11. Eric8-A
12. Cobblestoned
13. Ferminal
14. minessa
15. iZnoGouD
16. al_pacino
17. Thomsena
18. Boomcie
19. Gotland
20. punt_cycle
21. cineteq
22. Foxxybrown111
23. Netserk
24. Ewbles
 
I'm definately in!

Not sure I completely understand the rules though.. First you say 15 then 18? We need to pick 15 (or 18?) riders who will score points on each stage and then select 9 of those who will score in the final standings as well? Is that 9 total or 9 in each competition? Also I don't get the joker thing. I might just be stupid :eek:
 
Count me in, but like Hugo, I can't help feeling there are some gaps in the explanation. What if there are team changes? Any limit as to young rider qualified riders? Why has Guardini got an asterisk? Are jokers for one rider on one stage, or the whole team? Equal points for all four categories seems odd, but I suppose adds to the tactical challenge.
 
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First post is edited now. I originally had it 18, but made it 15.

You need to choose a squad of 15 riders to fit under the 6,500,000 salary cap.

Those 15 riders score you points over the three weeks as to where they finish on the stage. If they finish in the top 15, they score you points. If they have a jersey at the end of a day, they will score you points.

Out of those 15 riders, you need to select nine prior to the start of the Giro. Only those 9 riders will score you points for the FINAL classifications.

All your 15 riders will score you points if they finish a stage in the top 15, but only 9 will score you points for the final overall classifications at the end of the race.

So lets say your squad of 15 is;

Contador, Anton, Menchov, Rodriguez, Cavendish, Petacchi, Bos, Ballan, Lovkvist, Renshaw, Bennati, Larsson, Scarponi, Rujano, Le Mevel.

That squad of 15 will score you points every single stage if they finish in the top 15 or hold a jersey at the end of a particular stage.

Out of that squad of 15, you need to choose 9 riders, those riders only score you points in the final classifications.

Let's just say you choose the following team.

Contador
Anton
Menchov
Rodriguez
Cavendish
Lovkvist
Scarponi
Rujano
Le Mevel

Only those 9 riders will score you points in the final classifications.

If someone like Petacchi wins the Points Classification, he won't score you the 50 points because he's not one of your 9 riders. Only your 9 riders you selected before the start of the race will score points in the final classification.

The joker rule is this.

When you submit your team, you need to name 2 stages where you will get double points.

For example:

Stage 20 and Stage 21.

What scores you get on those stages from your 15 riders will be doubled.

If you have a team full of climbers, it's best to choose a MTF.

If you have a team full of sprinters, it's best to choose a sprint stage.

There are no limits on the riders you choose. You may choose not to include any young rider. You may choose not to include a sprinter. Providing your 15 riders are under 6,500,000 in total, they can include anyone you want. It's up to you how to pick your team to gain as many points as possible.

Guardini has an asterix because he may or may not ride. I've just put him in there.

The game is all about strategy and tactics.

My suggestion is wait until after the team presentation or when the teams are finalised 100% before you submit your team. If you want to get your team out of the way and submit it now, then submit it. If your rider doesn't start, you will get a replacement. I will not accept changes to your team because you changed your mind on who you want in there. Once I receive your entry, it's final. It will only be changed if a rider doesn't start the race.
 
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Yes, I definitely want to join the game.

More is better.
If there is a urgent need for some success, you can actually spread nearly the whole peloton over all the different games.
That tactic is called "enforcing success without the slightest sign of consequence".

But so far, no urgent need for that tactic. Season is still young.

Looking forward to it. Looks similar to Teamtoto, but without transfers.
 
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Eric8-A said:
I still don't understand the joker card thing though.

The 15 rider squad, including the 9/15 chosen riders who then possibly also score for final GC, those 15, or just some of them, possibly score at every single stage.

So, to make it short and simple: In case you picked 15 sprinters for your team, then it would be clever to place the jokercards on possible sprintstages.
Same logic goes for climbers and MTFs.
But those are just extreme examples of course.

Should be interesting and much, much calculating and making the best possible decisions or compromises.
But having some luck is always helpful, too. :D
There are many, and much different ways to win, I think.
 
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Eric8-A said:
I still don't understand the joker card thing though.

Every day your team scores points where the riders finish on the stage and if they are wearing the jersey.

The two stages you opt to use the joker card, those points will be doubled. So instead of getting 40 points for a day, you will get 80.
 
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Cobblestoned said:
The 15 rider squad, including the 9/15 chosen riders who then possibly also score for final GC, those 15, or just some of them, possibly score at every single stage.

So, to make it short and simple: In case you picked 15 sprinters for your team, then it would be clever to place the jokercards on possible sprintstages.
Same logic goes for climbers and MTFs.
But those are just extreme examples of course.

Should be interesting and much, much calculating and making the best possible decisions or compromises.
But having some luck is always helpful, too. :D
There are many, and much different ways to win, I think.

Correct.

It's a difficult game. It is all about strategy and how you make up your initial team. Yes, there are a lot of different ways to win.
 
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We have 14 spaces filled so plenty left.

I have updated the entry list on the third post. If your name isn't on there, let me know.

Also, if your name is bolded, it means I've received your team.
 
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Sasquatch said:
Correct.

It's a difficult game. It is all about strategy and how you make up your initial team. Yes, there are a lot of different ways to win.

Yes, can be difficult and hard.
But in the end, you decide for yourself how hard it gets.

I can see people spending hours or days while getting crazy over the decisions and becoming somehow autistic - who then perhaps do/score nothing.

On the other side, there are those people who possibly "just picked names and mixed it up a little bit, after having a quick look" - who then perhaps win in the end. :D

Everything is possible.
 
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When you send your PM's, can you please outline it in the following format? With the dollar values next to the riders too please. Example.

Team of 15:

Alberto Contador $1,000,000 etc etc
Joaquin Rodriguez
Denis Menchov
Michele Scarponi
Emanuelle Sella
Vincenzo Nibali
Mark Cavendish
Danilo Di Luca
Carlos Sastre
Alessandro Petacchi
Fabio Duarte
Stefano Garzelli
Cameron Meyer
Jack Bobridge
Gustav Larsson

Team of 9:

Alberto Contador
Joaquin Rodriguez
Denis Menchov
Michele Scarponi
Emanuelle Sella
Vincenzo Nibali
Danilo Di Luca
Fabio Duarte
Stefano Garzelli

Joker:

Stage 2
Stage 3

Cheers!
 

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