Giro d'Italia Stage 20: Bormio - Passa del Tonale (178km)

[maltiv]

I won't complain as I have him on my manager team, but why the hell is Lloyd the only one this giro who has even shown the slightest interest in the KOM jersey?

 

[Mellow Velo]

ES rumour: Cunego to Garmin???

 

[issoisso]

ES rumour: Cunego to Garmin???

His agent says Garmin and Cervélo have enquired about him

 

[HL2037]

Arroyo's still riding the Barbie Pinarello. An act of defiance, or maybe he feels he'll get it back?

Maybe he just thinks it's pretty?

 

[LukeSchmid]

In a huge shock the is a BMC rider apart from Evans still in the peleton after 2 climbs. A bit late to helping him in the mountains

 

[issoisso]

The forum is very quiet and pleasant today.


Something's clearly missing.

 

[Jamsque]

ES rumour: Cunego to Garmin???

I want this to happen. Cunego is still a dangerous rider, and with him and Hes-Jay suddenly Garmin are a force in the Ardennes. I also like Vaughters making an effort to sign a big name from outside the English-speaking world.

 

[JA.Tri]

ACF94 still to appear (maybe he has gone missing ).

 

[Ferminal]

The forum is very quiet and pleasant today.


Something's clearly missing.

No Lance or Cuddles fanboys anymore, what is going to happen to this place!

 

[theswordsman]

I want this to happen. Cunego is still a dangerous rider, and with him and Hes-Jay suddenly Garmin are a force in the Ardennes. I also like Vaughters making an effort to sign a big name from outside the English-speaking world.

Sounds good to me. I guess it rules out Garmin as an option for Contador, if it happens. Were they talking to him before Landis named DZ?

 

[Mellow Velo]

Weather takes out the live feed.
Cadel's collapse takes out ACF.

 

[theswordsman]

Weather takes out the live feed.
Cadel's collapse takes out ACF.

Did they both black out around the same time this morning?

 

[Pantani_lives]

Does anyone know how many points Loyd needs to win the mountain jersey?

 

[ak-zaaf]

Does anyone know how many points Loyd needs to win the mountain jersey?

He needs points on the Gavia, that's for sure.

 

[Spare Tyre]

Why did the chasing group let Wyss and Sastre do all the work? Wouldn't they have benefited by working together?

(Still on a learning curve re tactics.)

 

[issoisso]

tondo retires as well.

 

[JA.Tri]

Much as I like Cadel (yes I know....) , it seems he still has much to learn tactically...from team establishment to harbouring his energies.

IMHO he is so determined to win a grand tour that he blindly ignores other opportunities.

(yes standing in for ACF94 )

So to bring some sense of relevance... I hope he performs solidly today and can pull something from the fire tomorrow.

 

[ak-zaaf]

Why did the chasing group let Wyss and Sastre do all the work? Wouldn't they have benefited by working together?

(Still on a learning curve re tactics.)

Didn't see it, but I guess they don't want to waste any energy if they'll have the company of Sastre on the Gavia.

 

[eljimberino]

Those guys must be freezing their balls off.

 

[theswordsman]

Much as I like Cadel (yes I know....) , it seems he still has much to learn tactically...from team establishment to harbouring his energies.

IMHO he is so determined to win a grand tour that he blindly ignores other opportunities.

(yes standing in for ACF94 )

So to bring some sense of relevance... I hope he performs solidly today and can pull something from the fire tomorrow.

I honestly think Cadel just peaked way too early, as did Vino. He was in perfect form at La Fleche Wallone, and that was over five weeks ago. Nobody was talking about Basso back then.

 

[Race Radio]

What was the Graham watson/Vino thing they are talking about? Did Graham say Vino tanked it?

 

[theswordsman]

DearSean and David. Graham Watson takes nice photos but he's not a reliable source for Astana info.

What was his last rumor - something about the team being behind on payments and Contador going elsewhere for the Tour?

 

[Publicus]

What was the Graham watson/Vino thing they are talking about? Did Graham say Vino tanked it?

Basically Graham says that the word in the peloton is that Vino had a (tacit?) agreement with Liquigas that in exchange for not helping Arroyo and Evans chase down Basso/Nibali, they would let him win today's stage.

 

[UpTheRoad]

What was the Graham watson/Vino thing they are talking about? Did Graham say Vino tanked it?

The rumor is that Liquigas and Vino cut a deal where Vino wouldn't work yesterday for a free hand to take the stage today.

 

[JA.Tri]

I honestly think Cadel just peaked way too early, as did Vino. He was in perfect form at La Fleche Wallone, and that was over five weeks ago. Nobody was talking about Basso back then.

I concur (another illustration of ill considered tactics/overall season strategy, iff the Giro is your goal). Along with poor team selection (the team did well for what there was but the cloth was threadbare), lack of pacing to limit losses yesterday (and to Basso earlier in the week).

Team BMC committed to TdF and what do they have to offer. ASO should have another team onboard as a top 10 is likely to elude BMC.