Teams & Riders Giulio Pellizzari: Super Sub

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Sep 4, 2017
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Looks like the next ultra mythical pure climber to me but not so sure he becomes a GC podium guy unless the course and field aligns. Could be the new Landa or a much better Jay Vine who can actually stay upright.
 
Jun 25, 2015
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I put it in the stage thread, but the progress is so surprising that it's worth putting it here.



Pellizzari today


Pellizzari in 2024


I suspect that the itt training and equipment is like 5x better at a top WT squad. Plus he probably had zero incentives to try to do a good itt at bardiani. Still, very promising!
 
Mar 31, 2015
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I suspect that the itt training and equipment is like 5x better at a top WT squad. Plus he probably had zero incentives to try to do a good itt at bardiani. Still, very promising!
Yes, and he was also really ill for ITT #1 last year.

Regardless, it was a good enough TT to turn him from climbing prospect to all-round GC prospect (on paper). Losing a minute (eg) over a flat 30km time trial is more than acceptable.
 
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After today, RBH will certainly change tactics in the direction of “everything for a stage win”. I don't know whether it will be possible for groups to get through in the difficult final week. Especially as he doesn't have a huge loss yet. The course of the Giro fits into the whole season. Apart from Guilio and Lipo, nobody has been fully convincing. That's really worrying for the team management.
 
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After today, RBH will certainly change tactics in the direction of “everything for a stage win”. I don't know whether it will be possible for groups to get through in the difficult final week. Especially as he doesn't have a huge loss yet. The course of the Giro fits into the whole season. Apart from Guilio and Lipo, nobody has been fully convincing. That's really worrying for the team management.
6 and a half minutes should be easily possible to get in the right move. After all today Rubio was being controlled but not to the extent of being hauled back by UAE as it was only with the Bernal attack that the gaps were slashed and Rubio was 2 minutes closer on GC than Pellizarri is now.
 
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May 3, 2015
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Bora is so bad that Pellizzari was basically a every day domestique. Think a good GC position would have been possible otherwise (so far).
 
Sep 2, 2011
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It's ok, his time will come. He's learning from one of the best and proving Red Bull management his talent and commitment.
Everything he's done in this Giro makes me think he's a future GT winner. And that doesn't happen often with Italian riders. In fact, the last Italian rider I thought would win a GT was Fabio Aru.

No regrets about joining Red Bull either, massive improvements compared to last year in basically every aspect of the sport.
 
Jul 16, 2015
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Great support for Rogla but it's difficult to truly gauge where his level would be relative the rest of the front bunch if he was riding for himself.

For example he got dropped for a bit on San Pellegrino last week when things kicked off.
 
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The helper role is currently just right. He can learn and has no pressure yet. The goal with him in the future is to ride towards the overall standings. Maybe even in GTs at some point. But one step at a time.

Similar to Lipowitz. After a few smaller races, the Dauphine should now be about the overall classification. Guilio and Lipo are the team's hopes for the future. Lorenzo Finn is thinking even further ahead.
 

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If Rog abandons or ships more time tomorrow he should be freed of his dom duties and save RBH Giro with at least a stage win or something..
 
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The helper role is currently just right. He can learn and has no pressure yet. The goal with him in the future is to ride towards the overall standings. Maybe even in GTs at some point. But one step at a time.

Similar to Lipowitz. After a few smaller races, the Dauphine should now be about the overall classification. Guilio and Lipo are the team's hopes for the future. Lorenzo Finn is thinking even further ahead.
Yeah, Finn is imo the future. One has to remember that UAE's first year as a sponsor was also not exactly great, even if they took over a clearly worse team and not a top 5/top 3 overall team like Bora.
 
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Sep 2, 2011
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When you watch Giulio in this Giro you really get angry cause they put him babysitting Rogla. He's got a wonderful shape, did you see how easy he was cycling yesterday?
Let's compare him to Tiberi. You could clearly see Tiberi was almost at his limit while Giulio just cruising.

Free Landizzari now!
 
Feb 20, 2012
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When you watch Giulio in this Giro you really get angry cause they put him babysitting Rogla. He's got a wonderful shape, did you see how easy he was cycling yesterday?
Let's compare him to Tiberi. You could clearly see Tiberi was almost at his limit while Giulio just cruising.

Free Landizzari now!
Because Roglic has won 5 Grand Tours and is the only bet to win until proven otherwise?
 
Feb 18, 2015
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He still has a chance to get a top 10 here. If Roglic abandons he is only 2 minutes behind 10th and the route so far has not yet exposed some of the guys in front of him.
 
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Because Roglic has won 5 Grand Tours and is the only bet to win until proven otherwise?

Sure, but with those legs he's being wasted.
They could've used him in a more tactical way.
But I guess it all boils down to the fact that Hindley is no more, and Bora presented a sh*t-roster.
 
Jul 27, 2009
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He still has a chance to get a top 10 here. If Roglic abandons he is only 2 minutes behind 10th and the route so far has not yet exposed some of the guys in front of him.
Pellizzari should rather win 2 stages if UAE decides to control the race to prevent friendly fire.
 
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Free Pellizzari

The feeling is that if he hadn't been a domestique, he could´ve been on the podium and who knows, maybe something more.