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horsinabout said:
On British radio this morning, they were talking about our rules being the toughest in the world, but they want everyone else to follow our policy on drugs - for the rest of the world to come in line with our rules. As for trainers they resume responsibility for the horses in training - I think? hence Zarooni's ban.

Indeed I previously said I believed the UK had the most stringent rules in the world. I for one would welcome those rules being followed here.

Here rules are determined in each state with a racing commission and can vary widely. Getting nationwide uniform medication policies is step one and it has been in the works literally for years without success. Best that has been achieved is coalitions of states setting a uniform policy. The difficulty is that there is no National racing commission and no likelihood of one being established.

Anabolic steroid use isn't banned here, you just can't have a horse test positive for it in a race. Some states even have allowable threshold levels for positives.

I would also give kudos for the speed and decisiveness of the delivery of the ban as well as the length of ban. Here it would have muddled along, much like a cycling positive LOL, and would have taken possibly years before the ban was actually handed out.


Don't horses sometimes need steroids for recovery for health reasons following hard training?

Then they shouldn't be trained that hard IMO! Dr. Green (turnout and green grass) is the best medicine for over training. But greed and targeting a particular race(s) will almost always over ride the needs of the horse for those who choose the dark side. But then I never had a horse that was talented enough to run at a level where I might be tempted to push the rules.

This guy gave a 3 year old Filly steroids! Most likely to train her hard for the 1000 Guineas, I find that totally despicable :(
 
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Carols said:
Indeed I previously said I believed the UK had the most stringent rules in the world. I for one would welcome those rules being followed here.

Here rules are determined in each state with a racing commission and can vary widely. Getting nationwide uniform medication policies is step one and it has been in the works literally for years without success. Best that has been achieved is coalitions of states setting a uniform policy. The difficulty is that there is no National racing commission and no likelihood of one being established.

Anabolic steroid use isn't banned here, you just can't have a horse test positive for it in a race. Some states even have allowable threshold levels for positives.

I would also give kudos for the speed and decisiveness of the delivery of the ban as well as the length of ban. Here it would have muddled along, much like a cycling positive LOL, and would have taken possibly years before the ban was actually handed out.




Then they shouldn't be trained that hard IMO! Dr. Green (turnout and green grass) is the best medicine for over training. But greed and targeting a particular race(s) will almost always over ride the needs of the horse for those who choose the dark side. But then I never had a horse that was talented enough to run at a level where I might be tempted to push the rules.

This guy gave a 3 year old Filly steroids! Most likely to train her hard for the 1000 Guineas, I find that totally despicable :(

Fair enough, you know more about this than I.
 
Carols said:
I would also give kudos for the speed and decisiveness of the delivery of the ban as well as the length of ban. Here it would have muddled along, much like a cycling positive LOL, and would have taken possibly years before the ban was actually handed out.

Only because they 'fessed up when found with their hands in the cookie jar. If they'd disputed it and wanted the full process it would have taken months if not years.

Cycling cases would be resolved as quickly if anyone was prepared to say "Yes I did it"