Grand Tour Elimination Game ( 2010s )

[Libertine Seguros]

The 2009 Tour was worse than any other GT in the last 20 years and belongs below the 2012 Giro in the pantheon of races. Absolutely hideous.

The 2012 Vuelta was also better received than it ought to be because the three Spaniards and Froome (plus later in the race Nairo Quintana) racing up muritos for two weeks was already more action than we'd had in the 2012 Giro and Tour combined. If those two races aren't as bad as they were, the 2012 Vuelta doesn't look half as good.

 

[Red Rick]

The 2009 Tour was worse than any other GT in the last 20 years and belongs below the 2012 Giro in the pantheon of races. Absolutely hideous.

The 2012 Vuelta was also better received than it ought to be because the three Spaniards and Froome (plus later in the race Nairo Quintana) racing up muritos for two weeks was already more action than we'd had in the 2012 Giro and Tour combined. If those two races aren't as bad as they were, the 2012 Vuelta doesn't look half as good.

I think this is selling Fuente De a bit short. But then they failed to televise that so fair enough...

I'm actually surprised we haven't seen Bola del Mundo or Cuitu Negru since.

 

[Netserk]

2010 Tour, 2012 Vuelta, 2014 Vuelta, 2015 Tour and 2015 Vuelta are on the kill list. Then 2019 Tour.

Hurt: 2015 Vuelta
Heal: 2015 Giro

 

[Libertine Seguros]

But people were already sold on the race and hyping it before Fuente Dé happened. Fuente Dé just gave it that mythical stage that took it above just being a race that people were happy about and enjoying for what it was. Just the fact there was a GC battle at all meant people were already positively disposed to the race because the 2012 Giro featured all the GC guys trying not to race each other and the 2012 Tour had been designed for Wiggins to win even before we realised he was strong enough that he'd probably have won on most routes that year, at least with Froome's wings being clipped.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Heal: 2016 Vuelta
Hurt: 2015 Tour

 

[Netserk]

2010 Giro 43
2015 Giro 40
2016 Giro 33
2016 Vuelta 30
2018 Giro 25
2012 Vuelta 24
2011 Giro 24
2014 Vuelta 22
2010 Tour 21
2019 Vuelta 19
2017 Giro 14
2015 Vuelta 8
2019 Tour 8
2015 Tour 4

 

[SafeBet]

Heal: 2015 Tour
Hurt: 2015 Vuelta

 

[Netserk]

Most underrated: 2019 Vuelta

Most overrated: 2014 Vuelta

 

[Põhja Konn]

Heal: Tour 2015
Hurt: Vuelta 2015

 

[tobydawq]

Heal: Giro 2018
Hurt: Giro 2010

Oh yes, I did.

 

[Red Rick]

Heal: Giro 2018
Hurt: Giro 2010

Oh yes, I did.

Recency bias smh.

 

[tobydawq]

Is it illegal to vote against the 2010 Giro?

 

[Koronin]

Heal: Vuelta 2012
Hurt: Tour 2019

 

[Forever The Best]

Heal: 2019 Vuelta
Hurt: 2014 Vuelta ( 2012 is much much better )

For the last couple of rounds I'm voting based on the standings, so if a race I think is overrated is ahead of a race which is underrated then I vote accordingly to it.

 

[Forever The Best]

2010 Tour, 2012 Vuelta, 2014 Vuelta, 2015 Tour and 2015 Vuelta are on the kill list. Then 2019 Tour.

Hurt: 2015 Vuelta
Heal: 2015 Giro

I would say 2012 Vuelta was better than 2019 Tour. 2019 Tour had some shocking stages such as Planche des Belles Filles, Tourmalet or Val Thorens. And it didn't have a stage like Fuente De. We also had a decent stage to Valdezcaray in 2012 Vuelta thanks to crosswinds.

 

[Forever The Best]

The 2014 Vuelta and 2010 Tour weren't pqrticularly good, though, yet they're still thriving for some reason.

2010 Tour was good imo, had good stages such as the cobbled stage, the stage with Madeleine or the one to Mende. 2014 Vuelta was really bad indeed.

 

[gregrowlerson]

Is it illegal to vote against the 2010 Giro?

It is once Red Rick becomes Chancellor.

 

[Netserk]

Heal: 2019 Vuelta
Hurt: 2014 Vuelta

41 - 2010 Giro
40 - 2015 Giro
33 - 2016 Giro
30 - 2016 Vuelta
26 - 2018 Giro
25 - 2012 Vuelta
24 - 2011 Giro
21 - 2010 Tour
21 - 2019 Vuelta
18 - 2014 Vuelta
14 - 2017 Giro
06 - 2019 Tour
06 - 2015 Tour
04 - 2015 Vuelta

 

[SafeBet]

Heal: 2019 Tour
Hurt: 2017 Giro

 

[Red Rick]

Heal: 2015 Vuelta
Hurt: 2015 Tour

 

[Gigs_98]

Heal: 2018 Giro
Hurt: 2017 Giro

 

[Red Rick]

2016 Vuelta having so much more points than the 2017 Giro blows my mind.

 

[roundabout]

I am struggling to see why 2018 Giro is so high as it was rather ordinary with the exception of 2 stages.

 

[gregrowlerson]

2016 Vuelta having so much more points than the 2017 Giro blows my mind.

Formigal. One of the best stages of the decade.

Also The Great One wasn't in that Giro.

 

[gregrowlerson]

I am struggling to see why 2018 Giro is so high as it was rather ordinary with the exception of 2 stages.

Yates being good then bad, and Froome being bad then good, sort of meant that there was gc action throughout the three weeks, to an extent that you don't see too often.