Greg was right

[D-Queued]

Perhaps it is time to bring this old yarn forward:

"If Armstrong's clean, it's the greatest comeback. And if he's not, then it's the greatest fraud."

It has been ten years since then, and not all the evidence is in, but I think we are beginning to see a pattern emerge.

@TheRaceRadio: Greg, Frankie, Betsy, Floyd, Tyler, Christophe, Filipo, David, Pierre, The list of good people smeared to maintain the myth is endless

Dave.

 

[D-Queued]

Paul was right too

"He´s the cancer in this sport ... and now the cancer’s back"

Dave.

 

[Anonymous]

The latest tweet.

@ghincapie
As for the substance of anything in the "60 Minutes" story, I cannot comment on anything relating to the ongoing investigation.

That is a scathing denial of the validity of the information 60 minutes is airing on Sunday...

 

[D-Queued]

The latest tweet.

@ghincapie
As for the substance of anything in the "60 Minutes" story, I cannot comment on anything relating to the ongoing investigation.

That is a scathing denial of the validity of the information 60 minutes is airing on Sunday...

Yup.

IOW - My lawyer has advised me that if I say anything which contradicts my Grand Jury testimony I could be charged...

Dave.

 

[compete_clean]

Beat me to it.

 

[Race Radio]

I know it is impossible but it would be great for the reputations of great people like Greg, Betsy, Mike and all the others to recover at least a little of what was lost due to the aggressive smear tactics of Lance and his enablers.

 

[Race Radio]

"Soon after I testified, I realized why people were so afraid of Lance. The vast majority of American journalists bought the Lance lie hook, line and sinker, and either dismissed the truth I spoke or were openly hostile toward me. The cycling world was filled with fans and people within the industry insulting me, questioning my motives or inventing outright lies about me. The sheer quality and quantity of the vitriol was overwhelming at times... . I wasn't going to compromise my integrity. I didn't decide to 'take Lance on,' I decided not to lie for him; there's a difference."

 

[Race Radio]

"Lance threatened me. He threatened my wife, my business, my life,"

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

Beauty photo, RR! Right from my memory banks...

 

[Microchip]

Sweet pic of this couple.

And an equally lovely photo of Greg Lemond. (Didn't want to re-post such a large pic.)

 

[Semper Fidelis]

That is the real deal in that picture No F-ing Doubt!

side note......Hey Chris do not flame me for being a Greg Lemond Fanboy!

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Sweet pic of this couple.

And an equally lovely photo of Greg Lemond. (Didn't want to re-post such a large pic.)

wait a minute...I thought Betsy was as big as a HOUSE? WTF?????

 

[Berzin]

Wanna know the REAL tragedy in all this?

After all is said and done, not one American cyclist who rode in Europe after Lemond retired could say he did it clean, either by strong implication/association or getting caught outright.

Not one.

That is a whole generation of American cyclists who came of age during the Armstrong years, starting with the US national team of the early 1990's.

And they began doping right here. They didn't have to go overseas to become "corrupted" as so many people would like to think.

 

[Polish]

Perhaps it is time to bring this old yarn forward:

"If Armstrong's clean, it's the greatest comeback. And if he's not, then it's the greatest fraud."

It has been ten years since then, and not all the evidence is in, but I think we are beginning to see a pattern emerge.

@TheRaceRadio: Greg, Frankie, Betsy, Floyd, Tyler, Christophe, Filipo, David, Pierre, The list of good people smeared to maintain the myth is endless

Dave.

Greatest Comeback AND Greatest Fraud.
Greatest at Both.
Greatest.

Can't deny, you know its true.
At least you SHOULD know - if you know cycling....

Eddy says "Greatest Comeback"
Greg says "Greatest Fraud"

You gonna argue with either of those guys lol?

 

[GoGarmin]

Lemond is going to look damn good when all is said and done.

 

[red_flanders]

LeMond has looked pretty good to me for a very long time. Never understood what about him there wasn't to like.

It doesn't take confirmation to know when you're listening to a liar and when you're listening to someone telling the truth. If you're listening.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

LeMond and the Andreus are going to be 100% vindicated, and it's been a long time coming.

A big FU to Lance. Everyone knows he's a fraud now. Even his little minions.

 

[hfer07]

Thanks Greg

 

[Kennf1]

Lemond is going to look damn good when all is said and done.

Greg needs a new bike line. Small company/production.

 

[ustabe]

LeMond has looked pretty good to me for a very long time. Never understood what about him there wasn't to like.

In the ladies' washroom at the shop we have poster of that famous photo of LeMond's sprint for the 1989 World Championship, so I ponder it whenever the men's room is taken and I need to, ahem, wash up in the ladies' room. What always impressed me about Greg was his absolute joy in the sport--he always gave 100%, he always spoke graciously of his opponents, he always gave good interview (even in halting French), and he usually appeared to be having a blast.

 

[gregod]

Lemond is going to look damn good when all is said and done.

i'm not so sure. he did not create this mess, but he gained nothing and lost alot by getting involved. although lemond was dragged into this cesspool, he is still stained with its contents.

 

[benzwire]

Greg needs a new bike line. Small company/production.

I agree. I would love to see him start up producing bikes again.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Wanna know the REAL tragedy in all this?
After all is said and done, not one American cyclist who rode in Europe after Lemond retired could say he did it clean, either by strong implication/association or getting caught outright.

I fear you are correct. Even Andy Hampsten, who I feel was clean his entire career, had his last year of any quality results in 1992, and Greg was still trying then. By 1994...well, you said it best.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Wanna know the REAL tragedy in all this?

After all is said and done, not one American cyclist who had a carrier riding in Europe after Lemond retired could say he did it clean, either by strong implication/association or getting caught outright.

Not one.

That is a whole generation of American cyclists who came of age during the Armstrong years, starting with the US national team of the early 1990's.

And they began doping right here. They didn't have to go overseas to become "corrupted" as so many people would like to think.

Well, the story goes there were clean guys who did okay in the States, outside Weisel's club then went to Europe, saw that doping was part of the game and decided it wasn't for them and came back. THOSE guys are the ones who were/are cheated.

The environment that enables the cheating was created in Weisel's office. You know, the guy who 'owns' USAC?

 

[gregod]

I fear you are correct. Even Andy Hampsten, who I feel was clean his entire career, had his last year of any quality results in 1992, and Greg was still trying then. By 1994...well, you said it best.

perhaps i am naive, but i didn't hear of the serious drugs like EPO until around '95 or '96, but admittedly i was late to the party. even though both hinault and fignon admitted to taking "something", i have to believe that the majority of riders in the pre-postal/festina era were clean. until i see overwhelming evidence like we've had over the last few years about this era, i will continue to think that era wasn't too bad.