What we already saw in 1994 was Pantani with hematocrit of over 50% (54,5% -during and then 58% the day after the Giro)Cookster15 said:What Pantani showed in 1998 and 1999 we already saw from 1994. The Riis that turned up in 1996 was new. Obvious from the first ITT when he put 30 seconds into Indurain.roundabout said:Would he be a victim in your eyes if he wasn't? From your pantomime villain description of him, I am guessing probably not.Cookster15 said:Well yes. Riis is still alive isn't he?roundabout said:So Riis Mr 60% is a villain and a monster, while Pantani with his mere 58% is a victim.Cookster15 said:Forget Pantani you are barking up the wrong tree a victim of the times not a villain.
For doping hall of shame surely we need to nominate Bjarne Riis. Showed up as a monster with veins popping out of his head in 1996. Mr 60%. Sent Indurain into retirement. So obvious.