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Max Rockatansky said:
Velolover2 said:
The last 100 metres were uphill? It looked somewhat steep which is in Sagan's favor.

And who was the guy who crashed?

That was Sky's Kristoffer Halvorsen. According to Twitter he is okay.
Kristoffer Halvorsen crashed as the sprint unfolded and X-rays have confirmed that he has fractured a bone in his right hand, ruling him out of the Tour Down Under.
 
Sagan definitely does not look like he is going to become mountain goat. :D

Is it only me who thinks he is even bulkier than last year.

However. News, that he is going to ride Amstel might indicate that he will give it a try
in Innsbruck.
 
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Tim Booth said:
Max Rockatansky said:
Velolover2 said:
The last 100 metres were uphill? It looked somewhat steep which is in Sagan's favor.

And who was the guy who crashed?

That was Sky's Kristoffer Halvorsen. According to Twitter he is okay.
Kristoffer Halvorsen crashed as the sprint unfolded and X-rays have confirmed that he has fractured a bone in his right hand, ruling him out of the Tour Down Under.
Thats some pretty shitty news..
 
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Tim Booth said:
Max Rockatansky said:
Velolover2 said:
The last 100 metres were uphill? It looked somewhat steep which is in Sagan's favor.

And who was the guy who crashed?

That was Sky's Kristoffer Halvorsen. According to Twitter he is okay.
Kristoffer Halvorsen crashed as the sprint unfolded and X-rays have confirmed that he has fractured a bone in his right hand, ruling him out of the Tour Down Under.

Poor guy. That sucks big time. I can't imagine anything worse than getting injured in some f..king mandatory, pointless crit race that does not count for anything.

Seriously, its time to cancel this mandatory $H!T show, ... at least this pointless criterium ... nobody cares, it's not even on TV, just cancel it once and for good.
 
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Jancouver said:
Tim Booth said:
Max Rockatansky said:
Velolover2 said:
The last 100 metres were uphill? It looked somewhat steep which is in Sagan's favor.

And who was the guy who crashed?

That was Sky's Kristoffer Halvorsen. According to Twitter he is okay.
Kristoffer Halvorsen crashed as the sprint unfolded and X-rays have confirmed that he has fractured a bone in his right hand, ruling him out of the Tour Down Under.

Poor guy. That sucks big time. I can't imagine anything worse than getting injured in some f..king mandatory, pointless crit race that does not count for anything.

Seriously, its time to cancel this mandatory $H!T show, ... at least this pointless criterium ... nobody cares, it's not even on TV, just cancel it once and for good.

I don't know how these crits work. Is it mandatory if you wanna ride the TdU? Or mandatory cause his team says "you must ride this crit?"
 
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Jspear said:
Jancouver said:
Tim Booth said:
Max Rockatansky said:
Velolover2 said:
The last 100 metres were uphill? It looked somewhat steep which is in Sagan's favor.

And who was the guy who crashed?

That was Sky's Kristoffer Halvorsen. According to Twitter he is okay.
Kristoffer Halvorsen crashed as the sprint unfolded and X-rays have confirmed that he has fractured a bone in his right hand, ruling him out of the Tour Down Under.

Poor guy. That sucks big time. I can't imagine anything worse than getting injured in some f..king mandatory, pointless crit race that does not count for anything.

Seriously, its time to cancel this mandatory $H!T show, ... at least this pointless criterium ... nobody cares, it's not even on TV, just cancel it once and for good.

I don't know how these crits work. Is it mandatory if you wanna ride the TdU? Or mandatory cause his team says "you must ride this crit?"
Mandatory for the team to participate
 
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swuzzlebubble said:
Mandatory for the team to participate

Definitely an odd obligation. The TDU is obligatory for WT teams as one of the pre-expansion WT events, but the morality of the organisers insisting that teams participate in the criterium as well is suspect. The crit has no UCI standing, so although they might claim it is compulsory, what sanction can they bring against a team that refuses to participate? They are not allowed to exclude them from the TDU, it seems to be something they claim is mandatory but they would actually have no way of imposing that.
 
An idea could be to say that the teams are only allowed to start with - say - four riders. This way the peloton wouldn't be so big when going through the tight corner (or in the straight passages...) and it would be harder for one team the go up and just take control.
 
The whole thing seems to be a typical UCI ignore-the-rulebook fudge anyway.

By my reading of UCI Road Race rule 2.1.009, World Tour team riders are not even allowed to participate in the event:
2.1.009
Only the following teams and riders may participate in national events:
Provisions for events outside of Europe


UCI Professional continental teams of the country with the approval of their national federation;
UCI continental teams of the country;
regional and club teams;
national teams;
mixed teams

Only national teams may include riders from a team registered with the UCI.
 
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Armchair cyclist said:
The whole thing seems to be a typical UCI ignore-the-rulebook fudge anyway.

By my reading of UCI Road Race rule 2.1.009, World Tour team riders are not even allowed to participate in the event:
2.1.009
Only the following teams and riders may participate in national events:
Provisions for events outside of Europe


UCI Professional continental teams of the country with the approval of their national federation;
UCI continental teams of the country;
regional and club teams;
national teams;
mixed teams

Only national teams may include riders from a team registered with the UCI.

It's not a national event, it's a UCI registered 1.CRT race...
 
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Bye Bye Bicycle said:
Armchair cyclist said:
The whole thing seems to be a typical UCI ignore-the-rulebook fudge anyway.

By my reading of UCI Road Race rule 2.1.009, World Tour team riders are not even allowed to participate in the event:
2.1.009
Only the following teams and riders may participate in national events:
Provisions for events outside of Europe


UCI Professional continental teams of the country with the approval of their national federation;
UCI continental teams of the country;
regional and club teams;
national teams;
mixed teams

Only national teams may include riders from a team registered with the UCI.

It's not a national event, it's a UCI registered 1.CRT race...

Look, we all know you and all Aussies do love your little race but with all seriousness and honesty, do we really have to wait until some big name will get hurt to scrap this $H!T show?

How would the fans feel if the little midget or somebody like Sagan got injured for no reason and missed the whole or even part of the season?

What would you say then?

Ohhhh, I see, it's OK if a no-name rookie goes down huh?

C'mon, keep you little TDU, just don't make it mandatory and cancel the crit, that's all I have been asking for the last X years, and don't tell me I'm being unreasonable!
 
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would also be helpful if the Aussies could get their startlist for the upside down Tour right

36. LAMBRECHT, Bjorg (BEL)
97. DOMONT, Axel (FRA)
166. HALVORSEN, Kristoffer (NOR)

still on the list
 
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Jancouver said:
Seriously, its time to cancel this mandatory $H!T show, ... at least this pointless criterium ... nobody cares, it's not even on TV, just cancel it once and for good.

Just as the first cuckoo heralds the coming of spring, Jancouver taking a dump all over Aussie racing signals the start of the cycling calendar. Why pick on these races specifically rather than say the Dubai/Abu Dhabi Tours/the Doha WC, the Tour of Turkey, that scam Chinese race from Fat Pat's time, the London–Surrey Classic, the Scheldeprijs? There is racing where there would be no racing, the Aussies are in good shape, a couple of international stars show up by means fair or foul, there'll be good crowds on Old Willunga Hill... Your implication that some 50k crit is a uniquely dangerous race that riders do on pain of death is ridiculous.
 
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vedrafjord said:
Jancouver said:
Seriously, its time to cancel this mandatory $H!T show, ... at least this pointless criterium ... nobody cares, it's not even on TV, just cancel it once and for good.

Just as the first cuckoo heralds the coming of spring, Jancouver taking a dump all over Aussie racing signals the start of the cycling calendar. Why pick on these races specifically rather than say the Dubai/Abu Dhabi Tours/the Doha WC, the Tour of Turkey, that scam Chinese race from Fat Pat's time, the London–Surrey Classic, the Scheldeprijs? There is racing where there would be no racing, the Aussies are in good shape, a couple of international stars show up by means fair or foul, there'll be good crowds on Old Willunga Hill... Your implication that some 50k crit is a uniquely dangerous race that riders do on pain of death is ridiculous.

Don't mix apples with oranges. The only required WT race is the Abu Dhabi at the end of February and that is only a couple hours from Europe and still in the northern hemisphere.

Dubai, Turkey etc is not mandatory.

A Big difference to mid-January in Australia.

As I said million times before, keep your lame TDU, that's fine with me, just don't make it mandatory, remove the WT status and do not force the teams to ride some stupid crit.