How does Champion Systems not get a Beijing WC?

[SetonHallPirate]

I'm utterly stumped by that one...not just confused, but entirely stunned.

 

[theyoungest]

Not good enough? Also, how many Chinese riders are there on that team? Not many, I think.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

I'm utterly stumped by that one...not just confused, but entirely stunned.

because the team sucks horribly. glad the organisers use brains other than their ****ty course

 

[SetonHallPirate]

Not good enough? Also, how many Chinese riders are there on that team? Not many, I think.

Four. Kun Jiang, Jiao Pengda, Liu Biao, and Xu Gang. I'll grant that they aren't very good, of course, but is a Chinese national team all that much better?

 

[SetonHallPirate]

because the team sucks horribly. glad the organisers use brains other than their ****ty course

See above.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

See above.

yes and those 4 riders don't exactly set the world on fire. chinese are proud and want to be really good in a sport or nothing. hey don't want their chinese riders getting humiliated in a wt race.

 

[theyoungest]

I don't know if you're right about that, Ryo. Fuyu Li supposedly was some kind of national star in China, and he sucks as well.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

I don't know if you're right about that, Ryo. Fuyu Li supposedly was some kind of national star in China, and he sucks as well.

he was definitely not a national star. you are maybe mistaking with beppu

 

[theyoungest]

I said "some kind of star", I don't think you can become a true star as a cyclist in China, because the sport is too small.

Of course I didn't mean Beppu, he isn't even Chinese.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

I said "some kind of star", I don't think you can become a true star as a cyclist in China, because the sport is too small.

Of course I didn't mean Beppu, he isn't even Chinese.

well fuyi li wasn't and isn't a star at all in china. beppu was in japan for a bit when he was with discovery. in china there are no cycling stars. only basketball, ping pong, badminton, gaming and football basically.

 

[macnir]

Li Fuyu was a hit in China when he won the Tour of Thailand and Westfalen Preis(despite a NE) in 2006.
Now Ji Cheng obviously gets the most attention. MSR and Vuelta finisher, combativity award winner. Don't be stunned but they are results beyond expectation for Chinese fans.
Jiao Pengda was the best of the 4 CS China riders I think. He is an all-rounder and capable of some stage races in Asia. Xu Gang just won the national RR. But now they just don't have the calibre to make impression on high level races.

 

[DominicDecoco]

I'm utterly stumped by that one...not just confused, but entirely stunned.

Remember, this race is not about promoting the sport for the chinese people. It's simply just about ze money.

 

[theyoungest]

Turns out they did in fact get a wild card for this race...

 

[maltiv]

On a related note, does anyone know if there are bonus seconds for this race?

 

[Stibolino]

now they got a wildcard by accident, but to be honest the whole team hasn't the quality to compete in those races.
At the beginning of this year they applied for all RCS races in Italy but failed to get a wildcard, even for the one stage classics, due to to the lack of quality.

Besides did they ever made a result in europe this year on continental niveau (1.1...HC) ?

 

[JRanton]

On a related note, does anyone know if there are bonus seconds for this race?

Is EBH riding?

EDIT - Just checked Sky's site and he is due to ride this with just five other teammates: Edvald Boasson Hagen, Alex Dowsett, Salvatore Puccio, Luke Rowe, Chris Sutton, Ben Swift.

 

[janraaskalt]

Turns out they did in fact get a wild card for this race...

Replacement for Argos.

 

[theyoungest]

Is EBH riding?

Well d0h, maltiv asked a question about this race so he must be

 

[maltiv]

Well d0h, maltiv asked a question about this race so he must be

Turns out he must have ridden the Vuelta as well then, since I wrote like 300 posts then

I actually just wondered because I had noticed there was no time trial, and with no stage that is bound to be very selective the race could be an utter joke without bonus seconds, i.e decided by stage placements (such as Catalonya was from 2nd to whatever).

 

[William H]

Turns out he must have ridden the Vuelta as well then, since I wrote like 300 posts then

I actually just wondered because I had noticed there was no time trial, and with no stage that is bound to be very selective the race could be an utter joke without bonus seconds, i.e decided by stage placements (such as Catalonya was from 2nd to whatever).

That sort of race can be pretty fun IMO. Better than a race like last year where everything was decided by a single TT on the first day, anyway.

 

[theyoungest]

Turns out he must have ridden the Vuelta as well then, since I wrote like 300 posts then

I actually just wondered because I had noticed there was no time trial, and with no stage that is bound to be very selective the race could be an utter joke without bonus seconds, i.e decided by stage placements (such as Catalonya was from 2nd to whatever).

Erik Dekker says there are no bonifications, and stage placements decide GC. But it's Erik Dekker, he also sees 3 opportunities for Theo Bos in this race.

 

[maltiv]

That sort of race can be pretty fun IMO. Better than a race like last year where everything was decided by a single TT on the first day, anyway.

Fun to watch...perhaps. But insanely dangerous. Imagine if, say, 10-15 people finish s.t on the "MTF". Then the winner will be decided by whoever does best in the bunch sprints. Skinny climbers participating in bunch sprints is a never a good idea, as it definitely can result in fatal injuries...

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

But it's Erik Dekker, he also sees 3 opportunities for Theo Bos in this race.

The 2nd stage was redrawn for some reason. The new profile isn't up yet, but it's 8 kms shorter than initially planned. The could have replaced it with a mostly flat stage I suppose. Not sure why, though.

 

[SetonHallPirate]

The 2nd stage was redrawn for some reason. The new profile isn't up yet, but it's 8 kms shorter than initially planned. The could have replaced it with a mostly flat stage I suppose. Not sure why, though.

A landslide destroyed the original route, requiring it to be redrawn. http://www.tourofbeijing.net/2012/0...chinese-further-embrace-the-sport-of-cycling/

I have the new roadbook on my hard drive, but unfortunately, the UCI has neglected to pay for enough bandwidth to allow me to link to the download.

 

[The Hitch]

well fuyi li wasn't and isn't a star at all in china. beppu was in japan for a bit when he was with discovery. in china there are no cycling stars. only basketball, ping pong, badminton, gaming and football basically.

Same as in any country. Minus the ping pong basketball and badminton of.course.