How good can a clean rider be?

[ChrisE]

That is easy chrisE from dpf.

My DVR and yootube is far better than yours. This gives me leg up on other scientist even ones from universities and such.

How do you know how hard a certain rider is riding when calculating placings in future GT's? If I recall correctly, you calculated LA would maybe get top ten in TdF after watching him get dropped on that Giro climb. So, you were wrong there.

Me thinks you have been sniffing too much laboratory chemicals in your secret NY dungeon.

 

[karlboss]

How do you know how hard a certain rider is riding when calculating placings in future GT's? If I recall correctly, you calculated LA would maybe get top ten in TdF after watching him get dropped on that Giro climb. So, you were wrong there.

Me thinks you have been sniffing too much laboratory chemicals in your secret NY dungeon.

You are being baited, please don't bite. A reference is being made to the accuracy with which you can claim a power to weight watching a climb and timing it on tv, as opposed to in a lab. Its a joke.

The consensus seems to be around 6 maybe 6 and a little at the end of a tour though. Right? Wind and drafting and fatigued all considered, pretty solid but from the most talented guys in the world...honestly given that I reckon with a good team, tactics, and a little luck a clean guy could win the tour.

 

[Krebs cycle]

To anyone who knows how much power their little brother can sustain for 30min at 15yr of age, you DO realise that powertap hubs and SRM cranks can be up to 25% out when you get it brand spanking new straight off the factory floor? Don't even bother with that polar chain tension piece of rubbish.

As a result of the above, within the elite sport institute system in Australia, it is mandatory for each and every powertap hub and SRM crank to be dynamically calibrated across a range of power outputs and cadences before they get put on an athlete's bike. They all get recalibrated once per yr thereafter.

for the record I've seen an australian cyclist hit 7.1 W/kg on a VO2max test with 5min stage duration. I'm not sure about his 30min power but from memory it was around the 6-6.2 range being quoted here.

 

[cromagnon]

High values in PTW ratio, VO2 max do not make you a good racer,period. The criteria are far greater than 4 or 5 values. That is why one or two qualities gained legally or not don't get you a win.

Your basic capacities are determined by easily measured physiological values, you're delusional if you think they are not by far the most important factors. You need to actually train consistently yes. You need to be able to suffer etc and nutrition free of injury blah blah blah but your basic talent will be in your numbers, full stop. Respond if you want to look (more of) a fool by all means.