how long before Sagan trips the tripwire

[dadane]

You can only test between 6 and 10 due to privacy concerns. I think the whole "check for needle marks" thing would be difficult to implement and be a definite invasion of privacy.

If you are suggesting what I think you are (and you've done a lot of research on this), there will never ever be a test, and if there were then it would just push intravenous administration methods to a whole new level of danger. That would be a pretty scary situation, and exactly the opposite of what is trying to be acheived here.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

If you are suggesting what I think you are (and you've done a lot of research on this), there will never ever be a test, and if there were then it would just push intravenous administration methods to a whole new level of danger. That would be a pretty scary situation, and exactly the opposite of what is trying to be acheived here.

I also think it's trying to fix something after the fact. A cure, of sorts.

I think more effort needs to go into the prevention.

 

[manafana]

sagan is bit of a legend leave him be, funny how other sports likenfl go easy on their guys

 

[ShrubberyBlue]

Solos out a 28 second gap in the last 3km over a group of 10.

Then wheelies after the line. Not even exhausted.

No, just no. And this is why cycling is still a joke.

 

[zalacain]

Agreed totally

 

[Mishrak]

He also outsprinted Mark Cavendish on stage 3 of Tirreno-Adriatico. Then 3 days later, he managed to survive the 27% climb that was wrecking the peleton, with Purito and Nibali only to handily take the stage once it flattened out.

Each one of those alone is fine, but both in the same race? Orly? What's next? Outdoing Contador and Froome in a 50km ITT in the Tour?

From this article on Cyclismas:

cuz

there’s quite the fuggin obvious

lesson

here

still not the fugg bein learned

that

implausible performance

is probably just fuggin that

implausible

 

[Ferminal]

What are the physiological implications of someone being a world class sprinter, puncheur, and rouleur?

 

[maltiv]

What are the physiological implications of someone being a world class sprinter, puncheur, and rouleur?

He just trains harder than everyone else!

Also, he only drinks a couple of liters of beer every week. So he's practically living like a monk.

 

[HiCadence]

Peter sagan

How would people feel if one day Sagoon turned up a positive test during a race? Would people be shocked or would people turn around and say "Meh makes sense really." given the history of the sport?

 

[The Hitch]

I would be shocked.

shocked that they made it public, or that he didn't have better test avoidance methods.

Because of the top riders very few test positive, even the ones we now know doped.

 

[Granville57]

I would be shocked.

Shocked if this thread makes it past three posts before being merged.

 

[del1962]

I would be shocked.

Shocked if this thread makes it past three posts before being merged.

Here is the forth post pre merger

 

[Granville57]

I like to get the last word in though.

 

[Lanark]

There isn't a single rider turning up positive that would shock me.

 

[HiCadence]

I would be shocked.

shocked that they made it public, or that he didn't have better test avoidance methods.

Because of the top riders very few test positive, even the ones we now know doped.

Who knows maybe a team mate will testify in a few years time (nibali?) and then things start coming to the fore and Sagoons life starts to crumble around him.

 

[Parrulo]

merged both threads.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

From this article on Cyclismas:

You mean, that SKY apologist site?

 

[Mishrak]

The fact is, the person in that article makes a good point. Whether Cyclismas is a Sky apologist website or not is moot in regards to my point.

 

[noddy69]

How fun is it going to be when he rocks up and wins the Amstel Gold. The way he has been going the last 2 years he might as well cause its farcical what he is doing as it is.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

There will be no wires tripped.
The sport is clean now.

 

[will10]

Ease off on Peter guys.

He said he was too tired to wheelie over the line properly today.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

How would people feel if one day Sagoon turned up a positive test during a race? Would people be shocked or would people turn around and say "Meh makes sense really." given the history of the sport?

Probably the same thing people will think when Wiggins and the rest of the Sky dope show gets busted, right?

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

The fact is, the person in that article makes a good point. Whether Cyclismas is a Sky apologist website or not is moot in regards to my point.

Date of birth: 04-08-1966

1984 1º in National Championship, Road, Juniors, Belgium (BEL)

1986 2º in Paris - Troyes (FRA)
1986 2º in National Championship, Road, Militaries, Belgium, Vosselaar (BEL)
1986 2º in Omloop der Vlaamse Gewesten, Amateurs (BEL)
1986 1º in Ronde van Vlaanderen, U23 (BEL)
1986 3º in Flèche Ardennaise (BEL)
1986 3º in Omloop Het Nieuwsblad voor Beloften & elite z/c (BEL)
1986 3º in Stage 4 Ronde van België, Amateurs, Baasrode (BEL)
1986 2º in Internatie Reningelst (BEL)
1986 2º in Prologue Stage 1 Tour du Hainaut Occidental, Amateurs, Tournai (BEL)
1986 1º in Stage 5 Tour du Hainaut Occidental, Amateurs, Wasquehal (BEL)

1987 1º in Stage 5 Ronde van Nederland, Nijmegen (NED)
1987 3º in Stage 3 Tour of Ireland, Tralee (IRL)
1987 2º in GP Eddy Merckx (BEL)
1987 1º in Brabantse Pijl, Sint-Genesius-Rode (BEL)
1988 3º in Stage 5 Critérium du Dauphiné (FRA)
1988 1º in GP Eddy Merckx (BEL)
1988 1º in Prologue Vuelta a Andalucia (Ruta del Sol), Caldiz (ESP)
1988 2º in Stage 5 Vuelta a Andalucia (Ruta del Sol), Granada (ESP)
1988 1º in General Classification Vuelta a Andalucia (Ruta del Sol) (ESP)
1988 1º in Stage 3 Tour Méditerranéen, Antibes (FRA)
1988 2º in Stage 5 Tour Méditerranéen, Mont Faron (FRA)
1988 3º in Stage 6 part B Tirreno - Adriatico, San Benedetto del Tronto (ITA)
1988 1º in GP Libération (NED)
1989 1º in GP de Denain (FRA)
1989 2º in GP Eddy Merckx (BEL)
1989 1º in Tokio (JPN)
1989 2º in Tokio (b) (JPN)
1989 1º in Kuurne - Brussel - Kuurne, Kuurne (BEL)
1989 1º in Ronde van Vlaanderen, Meerbeke (BEL)
1989 3º in Paris - Roubaix, Roubaix (FRA)

1990 2º in Omloop Het Nieuwsblad, St.Amandsberg (BEL)
1990 1º in Dwars door Vlaanderen / Dwars door België, Waregem (BEL)
1990 3º in Paris - Roubaix, Roubaix (FRA)

1991 3º in GP Eddy Merckx (BEL)
1991 1º in La Marseillaise (FRA)
1991 3º in Omloop Het Nieuwsblad, Gent (BEL)
1991 2º in Omloop der Vlaamse Ardennen Ichtegem, Ichtegem (BEL)
1991 1º in Brabantse Pijl, Alsemberg (BEL)
1991 1º in Ronde van Vlaanderen, Meerbeke (BEL)
1991 1º in GP Libération (NED)

It is not impossible Sagan is a pharmaceutical product, I am just pointing out some riders are good from young age on.

 

[ShrubberyBlue]

Date of birth: 04-08-1966



It is not impossible Sagan is a pharmaceutical product, I am just pointing out some riders are good from young age on.

Consistently good? In a clean field perhaps. Through the corruption and incompetence of the UCI to manage this sport I would say that is just a strong marker as any to wrong doing.

 

[Mishrak]

Good enough to beat the best sprinter in the sport AND some of the best climbers in the sport in the same race? That's a bit too good if you ask me. Wins Green Jersey in the TDF, also climbs 27% gradients with pure climbers. I'm just going to operate under the assumption that he's doped to the gills.