if Arbiter is a troll, is he better than Vadar at ThePaceline?

[Escarabajo]

Im glad you reminded people to keep to the topic at hand as it appeared to be getting deflected away from the what it started as:

"if Arbiter is a troll, is he better than Vadar at ThePaceline?"

Sorry I am little late but I believe Arbiter was a Troll. Here are some of my comments about it:

- Had an agenda on the Contador topics. Always attacking Contador behavior.
- He was disrupting the flow of several of the Forum discussions without really deep or good support information. Again, like he had an Agenda to just do it. He did not response to detail technical issues. He would avoid those specific topics out of his knowledge and yet try to disrupt the flow of things.

I understand some forists have issues with banning people who are respectful and do not throw insults at other forists, but there are some other key rules that could play a bigger role in a ban, like this one.

 

[Hugh Januss]

Sorry I am little late but I believe Arbiter was a Troll. Here are some of my comments about it:

- Had an agenda on the Contador topics. Always attacking Contador behavior.
- He was disrupting the flow of several of the Forum discussions without really deep or good support information. Again, like he had an Agenda to just do it. He did not response to detail technical issues. He would avoid those specific topics out of his knowledge and yet try to disrupt the flow of things.

I understand some forists have issues with banning people who are respectful and do not throw insults at other forists, but there are some other key rules that could play a bigger role in a ban, like this one.

Yes that is true, but if the rules were strictly enforced there would be about 4 people left on here, and I wouldn't be one of them either.

 

[Anonymous]

okay okay okay hold on hold on hold on.
i hoped that because he couldnt keep up and didnt win and didn't win those mountain stages it suggests he is (relatively) clean

i think he rode this tour close to clean along with menchov...

i am one of the ones who doesnt like to beleive people dope, and i have certain riders i am convinced are clean, but i will never be niave enough to declare a rider clean in my sig... im not 100% about anyone, just 99% about a couple..

 

[Ozzie2]

I won't say one way or the other, but Tony Rominger, who doped and is Cadel's manager, was said to have set up a relationship with Ferrari and Cadel. Ferrari was Rominger's 'doctor'.
This however was later denied, and it was said that the rider in question was in fact Michael Rogers.

Cannot or don't want to?

My alarm bell rang when CE said at this tour when quizzed about poor performance "I don't know i want to speak to my doctor"

his manager might just be a good manager.

As for MR, well, no-one wins 3x world ITT unless they are really, really "healthy" I guess

 

[badboyberty]

sweet! This could get good.

Going WAY off topic now, Ive never quite understood the Jens fanboys. He’s a highly sus rider and has a very German sense of humour. Not really my cup O tea. But I would maintain that I am a cycling fanboy, no one rider really floats my boat, the sport is what matters to me. I should add that I do admire Jens for his attacking, that is friggin awesome.

Getting back off topic, I think the Jens fanboy thing isn't as much a fanboy thing as a statement about recognising the work of the domestiques and roullers. And is a sign one is looking beyond doping and results and looking at the way a rider rides and communicates.

Not that I am a Jens fanboy...

oh and signature files about dopig should be kept to the clinic...

 

[Anonymous]

Cannot or don't want to?

My alarm bell rang when CE said at this tour when quizzed about poor performance "I don't know i want to speak to my doctor"

his manager might just be a good manager.

As for MR, well, no-one wins 3x world ITT unless they are really, really "healthy" I guess

Youre not saying that aussie riders dope are you...

Oh god.. this is going to start a war.. the aussie fanboys are more deluded than the lance ones..

 

[Escarabajo]

Yes that is true, but if the rules were strictly enforced there would be about 4 people left on here, and I wouldn't be one of them either.

You are right also.

Hey, what's up with your name?

 

[Ozzie2]

Youre not saying that aussie riders dope are you...

Oh god.. this is going to start a war.. the aussie fanboys are more deluded than the lance ones..

No no, you have jumped to a kangaroo conclusion there and please don't lump my countrymen and women into a LA category, thats unfair.

I am under NO illusion that Ostraylians are any different than anyone else in regards to doping

I am aware how good Stu O’Grady became leading the peleton last year- wow, a climber too. Where’d that engine come from??

I’m also aware of our own Institute of Sport and our own problems

I know a little enough to have heard 1st hand what they do-well, 2nd hand, I lied there.

But he saw it first hand what they do. Tubes, bladder bags, cream, and so on

I also know no one wins 3 World ITTs without superior assistance

Hey, even honourary President of Australia Ian Thorpe (swimmer) had really big feet, we have 14yr old girl swimmers beating those huge chinese girls from the 90’s swimming times, and so on.

Even shane warne took a tablet and blamed his mum for giving himthe weight loss tablet (that took tragic to new lows, I mean your mum)

Denial isn’t something we’re immune from. Granted our jingoistic media sell the pretty innocent story

What I am asking is, the signature made it read like it was a well known joke- an irony that I wasn’t aware of

I thought that cadel might be (reasonably) clean, because he_didn’t_win. Because others kept blowing him off in mountain stages. You know, that’s gotta stand for something don’t you think?

The great book “positive” by Aussie discuss thrower Werner Reiterer put me straight. The guy who always comes 2nd is usually the clean guy.
The winner is the one you want to watch

Can you say, not blood doping- my take is everyone does that to get through the TTs and mountains and just bl00min well keep up. But the other stuff.

Am I missing something or is this just a “well he is a top performing cyclist so he_must_be on something too.

I will accept that inference, but I’d like to know if I am naive

And don’t just say “you’re naïve”. Give me a reason.

Ah sport. When did they kill it

 

[pedaling squares]

If BanProCycling is a Troll, is he better than The Arbiter?

Tabernac. This thing went sideways in a hurry. BanPro vs the world, Cadel's the hot topic, Jens is under fire, and Eva got herself a sex change. I miss The Arbiter, that was some quality trolling.

 

[Anonymous]

Tabernac. This thing went sideways in a hurry. BanPro vs the world, Cadel's the hot topic, Jens is under fire, and Eva got herself a sex change. I miss The Arbiter, that was some quality trolling.

Just a classic take!

 

[Anonymous]

Ah sport. When did they kill it

couple of weeks after they killed the radio star

 

[53 x 11]

and River Phoenix...........................................Too much?

 

[BroDeal]

couple of weeks after they killed the radio star

I heard Colonel Video killed him in the study with the lead pipe.

 

[auscyclefan94]

i actually think the funniest thing around here is your signature.

we are all fanboys really, the lance once, the vino ones, the brad ones, and the cadel ones.. but of course.. cadel is clean as a whistle

Never said he was clean but give me some conclusive evidence against him. Don't give me the t-mobile one either. I do think that other top riders are clean also like wiggins, vandevelde, Nibali, sastre, a schleck, kreuziger etc because they haven't had solid evidence against them. Can't say i trust AC. Their's something about him i'm not too sure about, tho i could be wrong. Me being a cadel fan doesn't mean i'll only defend him and perssecute others. I'll persecute australians who have evidence against them and i'll defend other nationalites riders who i think are clean. I have never said that Cadel is clean and all the rest are dopers.

 

[workingclasshero]

i think everyone is best off not having any heroes, coz they will all let you down in the end

 

[53 x 11]

sad face ..........................................

 

[pedaling squares]

i think everyone is best off not having any heroes, coz they will all let you down in the end

Your comment is pretty well how I look at this sport. I can't trust any of these guys to be clean, so instead I just appreciate the hard work it takes for a drugged cyclist to beat other drugged cyclists. Sad eh?

 

[Anonymous]

Your comment is pretty well how I look at this sport. I can't trust any of these guys to be clean, so instead I just appreciate the hard work it takes for a drugged cyclist to beat other drugged cyclists. Sad eh?

Yea, that seems to be the most reasonable compromise I can see.

 

[Ozzie2]

Your comment is pretty well how I look at this sport. I can't trust any of these guys to be clean, so instead I just appreciate the hard work it takes for a drugged cyclist to beat other drugged cyclists. Sad eh?

+2

"eyes wide open"

ditto athletics as well

and swimmers with their float suits

and baseball, NFL, soccer etc etc

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

i think everyone is best off not having any heroes, coz they will all let you down in the end

Be your own hero.

You can still also love sports and admire the athletes, without having any of them be your heroes.

 

[Digger]

I won't deny that I found the guys who went from this forum to RBR last week, and messing around to be amusing, because I think Coolhand is a mu&&et of the highest order.
However, seeing BPC here makes me think there's a revenge mission going on. He is way more extreme in his views than The Arbiter.

 

[Deagol]

i think everyone is best off not having any heroes, coz they will all let you down in the end

That's my attitude as well. But it is sort of funny that you suggest that, given your name (working class hero)

 

[workingclasshero]

That's my attitude as well. But it is sort of funny that you suggest that, given your name (working class hero)

 

[pedaling squares]

So what is the current alias count for our friend with multiple personality disorder?

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

I am closing this thread as it could be considered mobbing. Also it does not belong in the Clinic.

Susan