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Yea, but Basso and Vino were on WT teams, so they didn't really have much say without reneging on their commitments with the UCI. With the wildcard teams they have more scope, and so they can exercise the power of saying "you can have the invite but only on this condition".staubsauger said:
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Does anyone know which lineup teams are bringing? I was not able to found it anywhere, for me pitty is if Aru will not take part of Astana even he could be one of favourites
as for favourites, this year parcours is very nice and very hard, too hard for someone like Kwiatko, Yates or Wellens anyway in my opinion, civiglio will take them out if anyone really attacks, I am still wondering how good Nibali form really is, hard to say from performance of last month, in top one he should be able to make difference there but still will be hard to get rid of enough fast purito or valverde e.g.
as for discussion over Purito is of course more succesfull then Nibali in classics only not for being stronger, but for being faster in the end and in Firenze it could be different story if Nibali had not problems with crash, and how anyone could say purito was stronger there when he was barely able to hold Nibali wheel and only because of crash he was able to get some seconds in descent (which he would never gain on Nibali) and again he lost them in another climb, so be a little more realistic
as for favourites, this year parcours is very nice and very hard, too hard for someone like Kwiatko, Yates or Wellens anyway in my opinion, civiglio will take them out if anyone really attacks, I am still wondering how good Nibali form really is, hard to say from performance of last month, in top one he should be able to make difference there but still will be hard to get rid of enough fast purito or valverde e.g.
as for discussion over Purito is of course more succesfull then Nibali in classics only not for being stronger, but for being faster in the end and in Firenze it could be different story if Nibali had not problems with crash, and how anyone could say purito was stronger there when he was barely able to hold Nibali wheel and only because of crash he was able to get some seconds in descent (which he would never gain on Nibali) and again he lost them in another climb, so be a little more realistic
Someone who wasn't in Richmond might be fresher and win.
On paper this is a course for the like of Costa, Nibali, Uran, Valverde and Purito. I think the very attacking nature of the first three will mean this course suits them more. Wellens and the Yates bros (Adam or Simon have the capabilities to win) and Bardet outsiders. Probably (hopefully) the race is too hard for Alaphillipe, Kwiat and the like. Hopefully too hard for Wellens too. Gilbert may do well but he is not what he once was, in 2010 he won the race on a slightly easier course in terrible weather, and this is harder but may not rain. Open race, but I expect the people who were good in Firenze 2013 to do well here.
On paper this is a course for the like of Costa, Nibali, Uran, Valverde and Purito. I think the very attacking nature of the first three will mean this course suits them more. Wellens and the Yates bros (Adam or Simon have the capabilities to win) and Bardet outsiders. Probably (hopefully) the race is too hard for Alaphillipe, Kwiat and the like. Hopefully too hard for Wellens too. Gilbert may do well but he is not what he once was, in 2010 he won the race on a slightly easier course in terrible weather, and this is harder but may not rain. Open race, but I expect the people who were good in Firenze 2013 to do well here.
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Incomplete (as of now) startlist: http://www.procyclingstats.com/race.php?id=150010&c=3
bassano said:
Incomplete (as of now) startlist: http://www.procyclingstats.com/race.php?id=150010&c=3
- May 5, 2010
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I'm glad you're pointing out it's incomplete. Otherwise some riders might feel a bit lonely.
Afrank said:
I'm glad you're pointing out it's incomplete. Otherwise some riders might feel a bit lonely.
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He should have stayed in Italy to avoid the jetlag, the WC route wasn't exactly great for a rider like Vincenzo.hfer07 said:Nibali should take this one without a problem, since his form is fresher in comparison to the other potential candidates. Great race to wind down the season
The riders who didn't travel to America should have an advantage.
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Mayomaniac said:He should have stayed in Italy to avoid the jetlag, the WC route wasn't exactly great for a rider like Vincenzo.hfer07 said:Nibali should take this one without a problem, since his form is fresher in comparison to the other potential candidates. Great race to wind down the season
The riders who didn't travel to America should have an advantage.
Most riders are already in Europe anyway. It's a lot of time between the Worlds and Lombardia.
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Multiple is 2... Twice on a lame parcours. Nibali has shown a much wider variety of skills.
Boonen won more monuments and classics than Cancellara, yet Cancellara is for me the better classics rider. But feel free to disagree and this discussion is pretty old btw.
Angliru said:
Multiple is 2... Twice on a lame parcours. Nibali has shown a much wider variety of skills.
Boonen won more monuments and classics than Cancellara, yet Cancellara is for me the better classics rider. But feel free to disagree
and this discussion is pretty old btw.
- Jun 30, 2014
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You're right BigMac, it will probably be a factor in Milano - Torino, but it shouldn't be a problem for Lombardia.
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MSR is a even more lame parcours. So only Liege left.
Purito got a podium in the best and hardest Worlds of the last 10 years (Mendrisio). After attacking all day
Flamin said:Angliru said:
Multiple is 2... Twice on a lame parcours. Nibali has shown a much wider variety of skills.
Boonen won more monuments and classics than Cancellara, yet Cancellara is for me the better classics rider. But feel free to disagree
MSR is a even more lame parcours. So only Liege left.
Purito got a podium in the best and hardest Worlds of the last 10 years (Mendrisio). After attacking all day
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Lombardia with Villa Vergano is by far the lamest monument. A podium in MSR is unique for any gc rider in modern era. But whatever, the real discussion was about a hard and selective course, like this year's Lombardia, so we'll soon find out how the clearly better Purito will do vs Nibali
Arredondo said:Flamin said:Angliru said:
Multiple is 2... Twice on a lame parcours. Nibali has shown a much wider variety of skills.
Boonen won more monuments and classics than Cancellara, yet Cancellara is for me the better classics rider. But feel free to disagree
MSR is a even more lame parcours. So only Liege left.
Purito got a podium in the best and hardest Worlds of the last 10 years (Mendrisio). After attacking all day
Lombardia with Villa Vergano is by far the lamest monument. A podium in MSR is unique for any gc rider in modern era. But whatever, the real discussion was about a hard and selective course, like this year's Lombardia, so we'll soon find out how the clearly better Purito will do vs Nibali
- Aug 16, 2013
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Lombardia with Villa and Muro was at least a super hard classic, where the best rider won. MSR is just a lottery. A nice lottery, but still a lottery.
Nibali can handle a wider range of races. But Purito is just better in classics like Liege and Lombardia. Just live with it. The more climbing in a classic, the better Purito is comparing Nibali
But hey, just keep saying Lombardia with Vergano is just a lame monument. I bet Nibali would have loved to win a monument like that
Lombardia with Villa and Muro was at least a super hard classic, where the best rider won. MSR is just a lottery. A nice lottery, but still a lottery.
Nibali can handle a wider range of races. But Purito is just better in classics like Liege and Lombardia. Just live with it. The more climbing in a classic, the better Purito is comparing Nibali
But hey, just keep saying Lombardia with Vergano is just a lame monument. I bet Nibali would have loved to win a monument like that
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