Il Lombardia 2022, one day monument, October 8, farewell to Nibali and Valverde

[noob]

Almeida properly killed, still hasn't finished the race :O

 

[King Of The Wolds]

Wonder how many of these will Pog win? Surely he gets 5 over his career

This route in particular suits him perfectly. And with the strongest team in the race, he's pretty much unbeatable.

 

[Red Rick]

One final tanking of a chasing group for Bala, iconic.

One final sprint led out from 400m.

 

[tobydawq]

Sadly the question of who of Landa and Mas is the worst sprinter remains unanswered.

I think it's fairly safe to say that Landa is much slower than Mas.

 

[Red Rick]

Where have the Uber Mas haters been the last month? Up until the first real stages of the Vuelta, we had certain posters would pop into every major race thread just to take a crap on him.

Mas didn't really threaten anything today. But generally he is simply not good enough to blame for not attacking much.

I will say he took some meme corners this race.

 

[tobydawq]

FTFY, as I think that was the most important part of it

I don't think so.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Fisherman dropped like an anchor. Things you love to see.

Too good!

 

[titan31]

This route in particular suits him perfectly. And with the strongest team in the race, he's pretty much unbeatable.

It's a very different race if Remco is there. At the least he probably stays with Mas and Pog and you've two guys attacking Pogacar now.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Tbh, this has been Mas the whole season minus Tour de France. Unfortunately he crashed out of all the big one week races, but showed he was stronger than ever in those. That not only resulted in Mas being scared to descend and a horrible TdF, but also Movistar getting in a huge risk of demotion. Mas is the strongest rider in the field just below Roglic, Evenepoel, Vingegaard and Pogacar.

 

[Netserk]

Tbh, this has been Mas the whole season minus Tour de France. Unfortunately he crashed out of all the big one week races, but showed he was stronger than ever in those. That not only resulted in Mas being scared to descend and a horrible TdF, but also Movistar getting in a huge risk of demotion. Mas is the strongest rider in the field just below Roglic, Evenepoel, Vingegaard and Pogacar.

Agreed. But difficult to assess wrt Hindley.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

So happy for Mikel Landa!

 

[HelloDolly]

A happy Landa looks about 10 yers younger

Mas and Landa are really suited to the long climbs so I think they both did a great job today

 

[Poursuivant]

Impressed by the young Rugrats Valverde and Nibali, ones to keep an eye on for sure

 

[Red Rick]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1578751611220168704

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[KZD]

Great race by Landa, didn't expect this kind of shape for him. Mas is slowly becoming a Poulidor of the modern times another second place which is no shame as he lost again against a superb rider, probably the best in the world.

Wishing the best of luck for Valverde, Nibali and Nieve in the new chapter of their lives.

 

[Mayomaniac]

One final sprint led out from 400m.

Nah, this time he started with less than 300m to go.
Bora probably overestimated their leaders a bit, Fabbro's tempo was to high for for them.
Next Como finish please bri g back the Muro (with optional training wheels for all Belgian riders) otherwise it feels a bit like a classica mutilata

Serious, if the colma descent is too dangerous we might as well declare 80% of all Italian descents (that we've seen in races) too dangerous.
I'm all for putting up extra signs before a dangerous corner, but it's not a descent that we shouldn't use because it's too dangerous.

Goodby Vincenzo and Bala!

 

[Red Rick]

There was no clear path to 1st for Mas, but I think he nearly played his cards optimally. If he wouldn't be able to drop Pogi uphill (looking back, I don't think he could do that no matter how he tried), his only viable option left would be to force Pogi to go too long in the final sprint. For that, he needed Landa to be gapped, but close enough to come back in the final km. A bit like in Ronde.

He should have stopped pulling a little bit earlier to keep Landa closer, and then in the final km he should have done like Vino in London and blocked Pogi's vision to Landa.

The Valverde card was over with almost instantly, as the gap on Civiglio grew too quickly.

Still think he attacked too late on San Fermo. But he wasn't strong enough anyway.

 

[Netserk]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1578751611220168704

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Anything else would have been surprising.

 

[Netserk]

Nah, this time he started with less than 300m to go.
Bora probably overestimated their leaders a bit, Fabbro's tempo was to high for for them.
Next Como finish please bri g back the Muro (with optional training wheels for all Belgian riders) otherwise it feels a bit like a classica mutilata

Serious, if the colma descent is too dangerous we might as well declare 80% of all Italian descents (that we've seen in races) too dangerous.
I'm all for putting up extra signs before a dangerous corner, but it's not a descent that we shouldn't use because it's too dangerous.

Goodby Vincenzo and Bala!

Yeah, with this approach, we went from no significant action to the podium settled in ~2 minutes (with a predictable order).

 

[Valv.Piti]

Agreed. But difficult to assess wrt Hindley.

I don't rate Hindley at all compared to Mas, honestly. Hindley has ridden one race at a high level, Mas has ridden the whole year at a high level and has shown to be able to follow Remco and Pogacar in the most important races. Carapaz? I'd definitely take Mas over him next year, and honestly, that might be the same case with Roglic.

 

[Cassirer]

Tbh, this has been Mas the whole season minus Tour de France. Unfortunately he crashed out of all the big one week races, but showed he was stronger than ever in those. That not only resulted in Mas being scared to descend and a horrible TdF, but also Movistar getting in a huge risk of demotion. Mas is the strongest rider in the field just below Roglic, Evenepoel, Vingegaard and Pogacar.

Mostly agree, but we should not yet give up on bernal, who might not quite be vinge/pog but belongs in the ballpark

 

[Red Rick]

Anything else would have been surprising.

Record isn't surprising.

Record by 20s is surprising

 

[tobydawq]

Agreed. But difficult to assess wrt Hindley.

There's also Carapaz.

 

[Netserk]

Still think he attacked too late on San Fermo. But he wasn't strong enough anyway.

Yes, but if he really would have gone all-in on San Fermo, I think he would have been dropped. Maybe that was a better path to go down, but I'm not sure.

 

[DJ Sprtsch]

Almeida properly killed, still hasn't finished the race :O

In the end he DNF.