Il Lombardia 2025, monument, October 11

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Who will win?

  • You-Know-Who wins again

    Votes: 64 61.0%
  • Remco pulls off a miracle becoming the Harry Potter of cycling

    Votes: 7 6.7%
  • Fed up with PogiGOAT comments, Eddy unretires and beats Teddy

    Votes: 5 4.8%
  • Fausto M. performs Ganda descent for ages and wins the final sprint

    Votes: 11 10.5%
  • Fausto C. resurrects, saves cyclismo and his Lombardy record

    Votes: 12 11.4%
  • Another guy wins/the race is cancelled

    Votes: 6 5.7%

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Jul 7, 2013
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Pogacar is at 1.11 or 1.13 in the odds. I don't think I've ever seen lower values before a cycling race:


Some guys in Pogacar thread speak as if he already won the race (when comparing seasons). It still has to be raced and won though. Things happen in races so it's always better to watch, no matter how favoured someone is.
 
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Pogacar is at 1.11 or 1.13 in the odds. I don't think I've ever seen lower values before a cycling race:


Some guys in Pogacar thread speak as if he already won the race (when comparing seasons). It still has to be raced and won though. Things happen in races so it's always better to watch, no matter how favoured someone is.
I couldn't agree more. It's never over until the winner crosses the finish line. We all thought he would win Amstel, and look what happened there.
 
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Pogacar is at 1.11 or 1.13 in the odds. I don't think I've ever seen lower values before a cycling race:


Some guys in Pogacar thread speak as if he already won the race (when comparing seasons). It still has to be raced and won though. Things happen in races so it's always better to watch, no matter how favoured someone is.
I've started a few threads that became laughing stocks, so I feel for you, Mr. Kris.
 
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I've started a few threads that became laughing stocks, so I feel for you, Mr. Kris.

What do you mean? I still made 42% of people vote for non-Pogacar guy in this legendary poll ahead of the race with the biggest favourite in modern cycling. Full success.
 
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For the ones that are toying with the idea not to watch it, like that ever was a real choice, hypothetically, imagine not watching it and then Pogi wouldn't win.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkgkThdzX-8
Let be real, there's more chance of me going on a date with Margot Robbie than Pogacar not winning on Saturday.
I didn't watch the European championships, made better use of my time and I think my decision was justified.
Ultimately, elite sport is about entertainment, the same guy winning every race he enters with no suspense is not entertaining. If you really find that entertaining, thats fine, watch it, but I won't.
 
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Pogacar is at 1.11 or 1.13 in the odds. I don't think I've ever seen lower values before a cycling race:


Some guys in Pogacar thread speak as if he already won the race (when comparing seasons). It still has to be raced and won though. Things happen in races so it's always better to watch, no matter how favoured someone is.

Completely agree - it is clear Pog is overwhelming favourite but things happen in races. It is also one of the more beautiful races to watch because of parcour
 
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Pogacar is at 1.11 or 1.13 in the odds. I don't think I've ever seen lower values before a cycling race:


Some guys in Pogacar thread speak as if he already won the race (when comparing seasons). It still has to be raced and won though. Things happen in races so it's always better to watch, no matter how favoured someone is.
It never happened before. Last year Pogacar had odds between 1.22-1.28 in GdL.
Even if I disagree with such low odds, I kinda get it because Pogacar is clearly the favorite and if we take a look to the top20 favorites, UAE have 5 riders there. In the top5, there are 3 riders. And all of them (Sivakov, Yates, Vine, Del Toro) will work for Pogacar. How can you beat him if he doesn't crash out?
 
Let be real, there's more chance of me going on a date with Margot Robbie than Pogacar not winning on Sunday.
I didn't watch the European championships, made better use of my time and I think my decision was justified.
Ultimately, elite sport is about entertainment, the same guy winning every race he enters with no suspense is not entertaining. If you really find that entertaining, watch it, but I won't, and the process I'm saving myself £30.

If your budget for the date is £30, Margot Robbie might not be that impressed.
 
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Pogacar is at 1.11 or 1.13 in the odds. I don't think I've ever seen lower values before a cycling race:


Some guys in Pogacar thread speak as if he already won the race (when comparing seasons). It still has to be raced and won though. Things happen in races so it's always better to watch, no matter how favoured someone is.
Only goes to show that when victories are completely guaranteed and given, they cease to have meaning.
 
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Pogacar is at 1.11 or 1.13 in the odds. I don't think I've ever seen lower values before a cycling race:


Some guys in Pogacar thread speak as if he already won the race (when comparing seasons). It still has to be raced and won though. Things happen in races so it's always better to watch, no matter how favoured someone is.
So the odds give him a 90% chance of winning. That 10% can never account for all scenarios where he doesn't win (sickness, mechanical, crash, miscalculation, a teammate who is in a winning position so he can't attack...). The thing is that him being perceived as the winner upfront may require the bookmakers to lower the odds vs the actual probability. Taking the opposite bet could pay off (but the odd it actually pays is still small).

[By the way, this is just my opinion and no advice for placing a bet that will most likely be a loss anyway]
 
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Let be real, there's more chance of me going on a date with Margot Robbie than Pogacar not winning on Sunday.
I didn't watch the European championships, made better use of my time and I think my decision was justified.
Ultimately, elite sport is about entertainment, the same guy winning every race he enters with no suspense is not entertaining. If you really find that entertaining, thats fine, watch it, but I won't.

Fair enough but out of curiosity, who would you like to win the most?
 
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Let be real, there's more chance of me going on a date with Margot Robbie than Pogacar not winning on Sunday.
I didn't watch the European championships, made better use of my time and I think my decision was justified.
Ultimately, elite sport is about entertainment, the same guy winning every race he enters with no suspense is not entertaining. If you really find that entertaining, thats fine, watch it, but I won't.
Are you watching ITT?
 
May 27, 2022
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My light harted banter seems to have set the forum off lol. If by some miracle someone beats Pogacar I'm going to get absolutely cooked on here!
 
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So the odds give him a 90% chance of winning. That 10% can never account for all scenarios where he doesn't win (sickness, mechanical, crash, miscalculation, a teammate who is in a winning position so he can't attack...). The thing is that him being perceived as the winner upfront may require the bookmakers to lower the odds vs the actual probability. Taking the opposite bet could pay off (but the odd it actually pays is still small).

[By the way, this is just my opinion and no advice for placing a bet that will most likely be a loss anyway]

I think right now the probability of him losing this race is like 10-15% (i.e. 1 out of 7-10 races). I mean he's 4/4 there (sometimes in worse form). This 10-15% includes a crash (most likely), some other misfortune (sickness) or simply having a worse day.
 
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It never happened before. Last year Pogacar had odds between 1.22-1.28 in GdL.
Even if I disagree with such low odds, I kinda get it because Pogacar is clearly the favorite and if we take a look to the top20 favorites, UAE have 5 riders there. In the top5, there are 3 riders. And all of them (Sivakov, Yates, Vine, Del Toro) will work for Pogacar. How can you beat him if he doesn't crash out?
Why is Yates fifth favourite, who is betting on him
 
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We finally have a startlist out now and it’s actually a pretty decent one. Of course there a few riding who are names for this terrain but in no kind of form worthy of even spouting that they are there.

UAE are so overpowered that Sivakov is the second weakest climber in the 7 rider team and yet would be the team leader on at least 9 of the other teams competing.

Soudal have a decent squad of in form riders around Remco with only the injured Van Wilder missing.

Leaders need to go in the early break and be willing to risk a DNF than settle for waiting for the move from Pogacar.
 
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I like watching Lombardia for the scenery too. It's always such a pretty race. Also, one year someone will beat Pogacar, so I'll keep watching just in case this is the year it gets exciting.
One year someone will beat him, but this isn't the year. I think we'll know beforehand the year there is a chance...
 
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We finally have a startlist out now and it’s actually a pretty decent one. Of course there a few riding who are names for this terrain but in no kind of form worthy of even spouting that they are there.

UAE are so overpowered that Sivakov is the second weakest climber in the 7 rider team and yet would be the team leader on at least 9 of the other teams competing.

Soudal have a decent squad of in form riders around Remco with only the injured Van Wilder missing.

Leaders need to go in the early break and be willing to risk a DNF than settle for waiting for the move from Pogacar.
Forget it. Against this UAE is impossible to be successful.
 
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