Impey cooked

[Race Radio]

Impey says: the positive from the 6th was a shock coz the 8th and 9th were clean.

Whereas in his place, as someone who is definitely clean, I would have said: the positive from the 6th was a shock coz I don't have gout and I don't take that drug.

It should not be a shock. IIRC Probenecid 1/2 life is like 4 hours.

 

[Colonel]

^^ Probably didn't expect the testing infrastructure to exist in SA (maybe based on previous experience).

At all the major classics and SA Champs there is testing, he would of known this very well from years of racing in SA and since David George went down there has been a even stronger drive for testing by Drug free sport in SA.

Also this wasnt his off season, he had raced TDU and performed very well and carried that form to SA champs and back to Europe for classics where he performed again very well with a win.

I really like Darryl and have watched him race since he was a kid so to see this is pretty **** especially since this is a product that is not really prescribed anymore and one has to go out and pretty much hunt it down.

 

[Netserk]

Would be best for him if he was clean the days before in the case of a small dose/concentration.

 

[Benotti69]

The examples you are giving are close to 20 years old. I do not think many team doctors are willing to take that level of risk these days.

I would say others who had no connection with the infamous Armstrong have not come foward.......

There are plenty of places to get dope in South Africa.

Yep, but that doesn't discount he was taking it to a designed program. I doubt too many riders travel 'loaded'.....

 

[Benotti69]

It should not be a shock. IIRC Probenecid 1/2 life is like 4 hours.

Maybe he mixed up his race day vial with a training day vial..........

 

[deValtos]

Impey says: the positive from the 6th was a shock coz the 8th and 9th were clean.

Whereas in his place, as someone who is definitely clean, I would have said: the positive from the 6th was a shock coz I don't have gout and I don't take that drug.

I normally don't go for reading too much into what people say (especially cyclists), but that line from Impey really doesn't sit well at all with me ...

Seriously, who says that

Like DW writes, you expect something like "I don't do dugs", "I didn't take that drug" or even "I don't know how that would've got in my system" ...

 

[lllludo]

Although i did notice their team doctors are not on their website for the general public to browse, one needs to provide an email address to get that info!

Orica used to have a spanish doctor to monitor the operations in Girona
El Doctor Rodriguez ! (I don't know if it's still the case because you can't see anything on their website)
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=1055545&postcount=45

 

[The Hitch]

Matt Slater
‏@mattslaterbbc
Probecenid is primarily a gout treatment that has also been used as a masking agent. Impey, FWIW, is a former teammate of Froome's

Ballsy Brit. Reporter for the BBC. Follow him! He seems to be more critical than most British reporters.

Doesn't take a lot to impress you, does it?

 

[Dear Wiggo]

4.5-4.9 hours half life for probenecid.

2 hours from TT end to sample being taken.

1 hour TT.

Interesting timeline.

 

[keeponrollin]

4.5-4.9 hours half life for probenecid.

2 hours from TT end to sample being taken.

1 hour TT.

Interesting timeline.

Contaminated Inhaler

 

[DirtyWorks]

I don't, but it's a fairly logical assumption and the most accurate one until we find out anything different.

No. It's not. http://www.bicycling.co.za/news-people/why-we-delayed-daryl-impeys-positive-finding/


The notification came as a complete shock to me just days before the start of the Tour de France, particularly since anti-doping tests conducted on me on 8 and 9 February 2014 yielded no adverse results.

Love this guy. Positive sample on the 6th and then falsely claims his non-positive samples on 8 and 9 are evidence that the results from the 6th is to be doubted. It's called glow time Mr. Impey.

He failed the IQ test. Apparently the drug is easily detected in a urine sample. I don't know enough about WADA's side to know how sensitive the test is.

Again, the timing is interesting. We have to keep a wide range of possibilities open.

 

[Benotti69]

Wonder does ASO prefer the doping stories to come out now to generate column inches ahead of the race as part of their promotion.......taking a leaf out of Festina's experience.

 

[thehog]

Wonder does ASO prefer the doping stories to come out now to generate column inches ahead of the race as part of their promotion.......taking a leaf out of Festina's experience.

I'm sure JDD have one more Froome story up their sleeves to be released this weekend

 

[DirtyWorks]

At all the major classics and SA Champs there is testing, he would of known this very well from years of racing in SA and since David George went down there has been a even stronger drive for testing by Drug free sport in SA.

Let's give the cycling federation in South Africa some credit for sanctioning a WT rider. That would ***never*** happen in the U.S. Well, unless Armstrong didn't like the rider.

As thoroughly corrupted things are at the UCI, there's a sports federation doing the right thing regardless of the success of the athlete.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Wonder does ASO prefer the doping stories to come out now to generate column inches ahead of the race as part of their promotion.......taking a leaf out of Festina's experience.

My guess is the stories coming out now are of interest to a relatively small audience compared to the race viewers.

During the race, it's the cleanest peloton ever.

 

[DirtyWorks]

I don't think the labs ever know who the samples come from, they just have anonymised codes. It's the professional body (so this is maybe where the UCI could come in) that match results to riders and notifies them.

So in theory the UCI would have to have their hooks into Cycling South Africa (or whatever the national body is called) to be able to have any influence over this.

Yes, samples are anonymous. They fixed this after Contador's leaked positive.

The anti-doping authority at a National Championships is either the SA cycling federation itself or the promoter who ran the event. They would be in charge of selecting tests to run. The SA NADO would recommend testing persons along with the usual podium/peloton rules. Either the SA cycling federation or the promoter have the authority to open (or not) a case. They did the right thing here.

We've seen cases where the UCI has inserted themselves into national-level sanctions at a late date. (Bauge) Lots of maybes about the UCI in this case ranging from indifferent (Henao and the "experiment" vacation???) to not knowing at all until it was too late.

 

[skippy]

It should not be a shock. IIRC Probenecid 1/2 life is like 4 hours.

Came to this thread after seeing Race Radio Tweet & BBC World News Sport item couple of hours back .

Typical Journo discovery causing everyone to leap into action ?

Guess someone wondered why Impey was not on the TDF Roster and decided to seek a scoop ?

Reminds me that we are still mired in the Mc quaid /Verbruggen era ? Anybody seen a report of the finding of the UCI desk , where they dumped the "Positives " , from the 100% clean 100th TDF ?

OOps just saw another pig fly past !

Recently discovered that i was sending emails to an address that got corrupted , but , having " CCed " the supplier of email address , do not understand , why there was no follow up to my lack of response . So UCI or S.A. Anti Doping tried email , got no answer and decided to wait for the smoke signals to alert Impey ?

Time UCI got their act together , unless they plan to be at the 2015 Le Tour Depart , with their pants down again ? IF testing is going to be done , then TIMELY reporting of results , no matter how hard it is to do the job ! I don't care if it is Froome , Evans , Contador or a " Diletante " , the news coming from Official Channels , NOT , what appears to be a repeat of "Contador Menu mixup ".

How hard is it to get " Visas "& other paperwork organised , when you are likely to be on the TDF Roster ?

Any more excuses coming before Saturday ?

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Wonder does ASO prefer the doping stories to come out now to generate column inches ahead of the race as part of their promotion.......taking a leaf out of Festina's experience.

If you go back to the Rasmussen debacle - ASO clearly stated at the time they'd have preferred the UCI had informed them about the whereabouts problem before the Tour started - that way Rasmussen would never have been in the Tour, never mind in yellow.

 

[Benotti69]

If you go back to the Rasmussen debacle - ASO clearly stated at the time they'd have preferred the UCI had informed them about the whereabouts problem before the Tour started - that way Rasmussen would never have been in the Tour, never mind in yellow.

Well may the ASO tail is finally wagging the UCI dog

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Interesting timeline.

Positive sample on the 6th and then falsely claims his non-positive samples on 8 and 9 are evidence that the results from the 6th is to be doubted.

Definition: He's a fool, and takes the rest of us for being bigger fools than he is.

Really disappointing.

 

[RobbieCanuck]

Positive in Feb. Suspended by his team in July. Welcome to anti-doping in 2014

In fairness his team did not know about it until after June 23, 2014. According to the CN article he notified them after he received the news on June 23, 2014 ore perhaps after the B sample on June 27, 2014

NADA's really have to ensure all the protocols are followed before they initiate discipline. Four and 1/2 months is not too bad a time line, given the protocols involved.

Bicycling Mag article,

“The delay in making the announcement has been due to an extra confirmation analysis requirement, which is routine for banned substances of this nature. The unfortunate passing of a key staff member at the doping control laboratory in Bloemfontein in March 2014 also affected the standard turn around time of presenting the final result of the samples from the SA Road Cycling Championships.”

Edit - sorry if I am a bit behind re: this news, I just logged on.

 

[RobbieCanuck]

What's hard to understand? Rider is found with banned masking agent in his organism. Yes, he doped. 99.9% sure.

What is probenecid a masking agent for? ?Steroids?

 

[RobbieCanuck]

Why blame Impey? Probably the team told him what to take and when.

I dont believe riders are going off to find doping doctors on their own. I still mostly think it is in-house programs, otherwise why do teams need more than 1 Doctor?

I think this is a stretch. There is no evidence to suggest this and you are speculating. "Possibly" would be more fitting than "probably" Keep in mind it is unethical for a doctor to recommend to a rider s/he use PEDs, meaning the doctor can be disciplined by the medical association and no doc wants that.

Most teams have about 30 riders, that is why they need more than one doctor. Most teams assign one doctor to several specific riders. Keep in mind these docs do not work for cycling teams exclusively. They continue with their own practices.

 

[TheGame]

Orica used to have a spanish doctor to monitor the operations in Girona
El Doctor Rodriguez ! (I don't know if it's still the case because you can't see anything on their website)
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=1055545&postcount=45

Manuel Rodriguez Alonso.

He has history.

 

[neineinei]

The notification came as a complete shock to me just days before the start of the Tour de France, particularly since anti-doping tests conducted on me on 8 and 9 February 2014 yielded no adverse results.

http://www.darylimpey.com/News/DisplayNewsItem.aspx?niid=34129

He won the ITT the 6th and came second in the road race the 9th, and was tested both days. But he was also tested the 8th, when he wasn't racing.