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BroDeal said:
There could be U.S. riders from Postal/Disco/Astana/RS who shared the same drug sources with riders from Rock and perhaps many other U.S. teams. Maybe there is a network of interrelated sources that are used. These guys spend so much of their time in the U.S. training. They have to get their stuff from someone.

If someone, like Leipheimer or Hincapie, gets ensared by a drug ring investigation then it would be easy to get him to roll over on his team.

My guess which is uneducated was that Ball/Rock were distributing PEDs to the peloton and our hero Lance and his team were also involved. I was curious also is if the feds found drugs in Balls' crib.
The way Ball presented himself at the races I attended was way over the top crazy, it was all drugs ,sex and rap music. The drug part was subdued but I felt it was there.
Lance has his dark side,(which I like) and cycling has its dark side(the doping I do not like) but all in all I could never equate Rock=Wrongstrong.
 
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My guess which is uneducated was that Ball/Rock were distributing PEDs to the peloton and our hero Lance and his team were also involved. I was curious also is if the feds found drugs in Balls' crib.
The way Ball presented himself at the races I attended was way over the top crazy, it was all drugs ,sex and rap music. The drug part was subdued but I felt it was there.
Lance has his dark side,(which I like) and cycling has its dark side(the doping I do not like) but all in all I could never equate Rock=Wrongstrong.

Ball strikes me as an O.G. gangster wannabe who started to believe his own bullsh!t. I can easily see him starting out with a "bad boys of cycling" marketing plan for his team, getting sucked into the image, and facilitating his team's doping.
 

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Ball strikes me as an O.G. gangster wannabe who started to believe his own bullsh!t. I can easily see him starting out with a "bad boys of cycling" marketing plan for his team, getting sucked into the image, and facilitating his team's doping.

Ball, he could have called his team styrofoam racing. OG Ball his face looks like it is made of wax.
 
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That's nothing, read the NewYorkMag article...."clear that Ball is in deep."

Balls Deep, the writer just couldn't resist I guess :D

From the article regarding Rock Racing;

But the main through line for the team was that an inordinate number of its riders had been convicted of using performance-enhancing drugs. These were riders coming off of several years away from the sport and unable to find a home on any other professional cycling team. Many had been involved in Spain's massive 2006 anti-doping investigation, Operación Puerto, which involved 200 cyclists and ended the career of two-time Tour de France champion Jan Ulrich.

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But the main through line for the team was that an inordinate number of its riders had been convicted of using performance-enhancing drugs. These were riders coming off of several years away from the sport and unable to find a home on any other professional cycling team. Many had been involved in Spain's massive 2006 anti-doping investigation, Operación Puerto, which involved 200 cyclists and ended the career of two-time Tour de France champion Jan Ulrich.

There was a savvy reason for that. For dirt cheap a small team hired Pro Tour level talent that was ostracized from the big teams. Racing outside of Europe, the team notched a lot of good wins. For not a lot of money Ball was able to build a "bad boys" image and get the results to back up the image.
 
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There was a savvy reason for that. For dirt cheap a small team hired Pro Tour level talent that was ostracized from the big teams. Racing outside of Europe, the team notched a lot of good wins. For not a lot of money Ball was able to build a "bad boys" image and get the results to back up the image.

i think he was referring to the bolded part about Ulle! Pharmboy already being stripped of his wins?
 

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Rock lives on in the Vuelta A Colombia ready for .... ?
 

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