Is Andy Schleck being criticised too much lately?

[issoisso]

I think this subject needs its very own thread. Carlos Sastre, Frank Schleck and CSC tactics + Cadel Evans bad luck.

The dutch mechanic on the team already told the story back in 2009.

Basically, on the Restefonde while everyone was at their limit, Sastre felt great and wanted to attack. He asked Riis, who said "ask Frank", since Frank was in yellow. So he asked Frank...

Frank said no, Sastre just followed wheels all day. Riis went up to Frank and yelled at him that if he wanted to win the Tour, "it has to hurt and it has to hurt NOW" and Frank replied that he couldn't do it. Frank's a damned nice guy, but he doesn't seem to have the mental fortitude required, sadly.
Then at the end of the Tour Andy complained that Sastre worked against Frank.

Personally, I lost all respect I had for Andy back in 2009 the moment he randomly quipped that Moncoutié "is *** in the head" apropos of absolutely nothing. If only he was a nice guy like his brother...

 

[Thomsena]

I think this subject needs its very own thread. Carlos Sastre, Frank Schleck and CSC tactics + Cadel Evans bad luck.

Have all been mentioned in a connection - this time an interview - to why Andy is criticised so much.

 

[Forunculo]

I'm sure Schlecks give the interview after see this thread


Being serious, they talk to a certain fan base whose knowledge of cycling is almost zero.

So they can troll us all they want

 

[jens_attacks]

a clash between schleck's and gibo's fans on the dolomites somewhere in 2003 could have been fun

 

[Siriuscat]

I'm sure Schlecks give the interview after see this thread


Being serious, they talk to a certain fan base whose knowledge of cycling is almost zero.

So they can troll us all they want

The three "girlies" are showing us where their brains are and the two beside 2Waldorf" must have isses if they want to stand beside him in the first place!!

Neither member of Team Frandy have the ability to come across as proper bike racers, I don't think they have it in them. They are waiting for uncle Johan to ensure that that nice man Prudhomme in Paris picks them a route that almost guarantees they can win.......problem is Berto is better than both of them. Personally I think they are a pair of circus clowns masquerading on bikes. Before either of them win anything they need to grow a pair (each) and learn a wee bit of respect.

 

[HL2037]

Okay, was this meant as sarcastic or are you being serious? Because I do agree with it.

I am serious! I am myself a dedicated Contador fangirl, and I am classy as hell!

 

[LaFlorecita]

I am serious! I am myself a dedicated Contador fangirl, and I am classy as hell!

Another fangirl! Yay!

We're both fangirls and both classy.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Yes, just like everything else about Contador, his fangirls are classier than the rest.

I am serious! I am myself a dedicated Contador fangirl, and I am classy as hell!

Another fangirl! Yay!

We're both fangirls and both classy.

And then I see this...

I'm sure Schlecks give the interview after see this thread


Being serious, they talk to a certain fan base whose knowledge of cycling is almost zero.

So they can troll us all they want

this is just pathetic. Alberto fangirls love him and scream when they see him but they won't ask him to marry them. They're just too classy for that.

 

[The Hitch]

Another fangirl! Yay!

We're both fangirls and both classy.

Where are the "marry me Alberto" pictures?

 

[jens_attacks]

And then I see this...



this is just pathetic. Alberto fangirls love him and scream when they see him but they won't ask him to marry them. They're just too classy for that.

honestly i'd have prefered to hear that alberto's fan girls are not ugly and fat.but whatever...


joking

 

[LaFlorecita]

Where are the "marry me Alberto" pictures?

I'll just point at the post above yours.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I'm sure Schlecks give the interview after see this thread


Being serious, they talk to a certain fan base whose knowledge of cycling is almost zero.

So they can troll us all they want

Now another thought; who in God's name would want to marry Andy?

 

[uphillstruggle]

Now another thought; who in God's name would want to marry Andy?

A woman who likes to wear the pants. You know, put shelves up; open jars; lead down descents.

 

[Maxiton]

I think this subject needs its very own thread. Carlos Sastre, Frank Schleck and CSC tactics + Cadel Evans bad luck.

Maybe. If the whole story of that race and the team's subsequent mass exodus (including Cancellara) ever comes to light, it'll probably be one of the most fascinating (and maybe sleazy) ever from pro cycling.

The dutch mechanic on the team already told the story back in 2009.

Basically, on the Restefonde while everyone was at their limit, Sastre felt great and wanted to attack. He asked Riis, who said "ask Frank", since Frank was in yellow. So he asked Frank...

Frank said no, Sastre just followed wheels all day. Riis went up to Frank and yelled at him that if he wanted to win the Tour, "it has to hurt and it has to hurt NOW" and Frank replied that he couldn't do it. Frank's a damned nice guy, but he doesn't seem to have the mental fortitude required, sadly.
Then at the end of the Tour Andy complained that Sastre worked against Frank.

Personally, I lost all respect I had for Andy back in 2009 the moment he randomly quipped that Moncoutié "is *** in the head" apropos of absolutely nothing. If only he was a nice guy like his brother...

Interesting info. But what I am supposing is that Carlos won the Tour for Riis (and himself, of course) and this apparently alienated the two Schreck brothers; Riis then, feeling that Andy was the future, may have somehow over-compensated in their direction, thus alienating his Tour champion, who subsequently left. Then the Schrecks, still feeling slighted, stabbed Riis in the back by planning their departure and taking much of the team in the bargain. The Cancellara departure is interesting because he really was Riis's key asset (other than Contador, of course) and Riis absolutely did not want to lose him. Yet in the end he relented, possibly indicating that Cancellara made him an offer he couldn't refuse - who knows?

But it's all supposition, as far as I know.

 

[LaFlorecita]

A woman who likes to wear the pants. You know, put shelves up; open jars; lead down descents.

Good one.

 

[HL2037]

And then I see this...

this is just pathetic. Alberto fangirls love him and scream when they see him but they won't ask him to marry them. They're just too classy for that.

Should I ever wish to marry a bikerider, any bikerider, I certainly would not display the proposal across my fat rolls. I just wasn't brought up that way.

 

[c&cfan]

Maybe. If the whole story of that race and the team's subsequent mass exodus (including Cancellara) ever comes to light, it'll probably be one of the most fascinating (and maybe sleazy) ever from pro cycling.



Interesting info. But what I am supposing is that Carlos won the Tour for Riis (and himself, of course) and this apparently alienated the two Schreck brothers; Riis then, feeling that Andy was the future, may have somehow over-compensated in their direction, thus alienating his Tour champion, who subsequently left. Then the Schrecks, still feeling slighted, stabbed Riis in the back by planning their departure and taking much of the team in the bargain. The Cancellara departure is interesting because he really was Riis's key asset (other than Contador, of course) and Riis absolutely did not want to lose him. Yet in the end he relented, possibly indicating that Cancellara made him an offer he couldn't refuse - who knows?

But it's all supposition, as far as I know.

i knew that he was related to the Corleone family.

 

[Siriuscat]

Should I ever wish to marry a bikerider, any bikerider, I certainly would not display the proposal across my fat rolls. I just wasn't brought up that way.

LaFlorecita and HL2037 waiting for Berto....

 

[The Hitch]

La Florecita and HL2307 waiting for Berto....

I hope they are coming to our CN meet up at the Tour.

We should split up into groups of those who like Contador and those who don't.

 

[Maxiton]

I hope they are coming to our CN meet up at the Tour.

We should split up into groups of those who like Contador and those who don't.

I'm with whatever group those two fans are with.

 

[Siriuscat]

I'm with whatever group those two fans are with.

Entry to that club is an undying note of Berto fanboyism in your sig.......I'm in

 

[Thomsena]

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

i love alberto (slowly changing his name to: Alberto`s fangirl fan nr.1)

 

[Thomsena]

 

[hfer07]

The dutch mechanic on the team already told the story back in 2009.

Basically, on the Restefonde while everyone was at their limit, Sastre felt great and wanted to attack. He asked Riis, who said "ask Frank", since Frank was in yellow. So he asked Frank...
Frank said no, Sastre just followed wheels all day. Riis went up to Frank and yelled at him that if he wanted to win the Tour, "it has to hurt and it has to hurt NOW" and Frank replied that he couldn't do it. Frank's a damned nice guy, but he doesn't seem to have the mental fortitude required, sadly.
Then at the end of the Tour Andy complained that Sastre worked against Frank.

Interesting!! The version that I've heard was that the three of them(Riis, Satre & Frank) had a meeting before the Alpe d'Huez stage in which Carlos was very upset & literally "demanded" Riis to remain Frank that he(Sastre) was the Protected/designated Leader from the very beginning & therefore he should be the first option to attempt yellow in the Alpe, and if he'd failed, then Frank could go afterwards......