Has making the entire team wait when Wigans abandoned in the 2011 Tour been mentioned yet?
Did you hear what Rogers said after live on TV? And then the below to the print media?Le Baroudeur said:Wrong, Saxo gathered the intelligence, Mauduit briefed the team, Nico suggested it on the road, Rogers conferred, Alberto gave the order, 'Benna go', all in the space of a few seconds.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/rogers-inspires-break-which-moves-contador-closer-to-froome"I saw the opportunity arise in the crosswinds and I said to the boys lets put our heads down and go as hard as we can. It was harder than a mountain stage and I think the hardest stage I've ever done," he said at the finish.
"It's not over and today worked well because we've clawed back some time. It wasn't planned in the morning but it was decided in a split second. I saw everyone was tired with roughly 30 kilometres to go and I said to the boys let's go, let's try, we've got nothing to do. It paid off.
"It was similar to La Grande-Motte, yes. We had similar conditions. I saw everyone was on the limit and we were all at the front and we went at the right moment. It was a split-second decision and now we've clawed back some time. We spent some energy but so did everyone."
http://www.watoday.com.au/sport/cycling/worse-than-a-mountain-stage-rogers-move-brings-contador-closer-to-froome-20130713-2pw8v.htmlRogers said no words were spoken between he and Bennati to make their move, nor was Contador asked if he was ready to go with it. "I just looked at Bennati. It was a relatively hard day right up to there and we both understood. The whole team was there ... no words took place," he said.
just reaffirming what it took place today on Mont Ventoux-- as long as Brailsford has an earpiece attached to Froome to tell him to slow down a notch, I believe is all he really needs to be a savvy DS & neglect that "tactics rubbish"hfer07 said:To the OP's question: It Remains me of Johan Bruyneel---he didn't need to be a great tactician when his riders have access to the best "Scientific Programme" in the sport
Actually it was his competitiveness that lost him more time. If he had rode his own tempo instead of trying to match Froome's he would probably have sealed second place already. Instead he went far too deep into the red allowing Mollema riding tempo to catch him with him.warmfuzzies said:Now that it is painfully obvious that Froome is the strongest man at this year's Tour, all that's left for the Contador fans is to snark about the Sky DS. What an awesome display today up Ventoux. It was highly competitive until the last 2 kms. Contador does not have the form to compete for the top spot, but he was competitive and limited his losses.
they can still stretch out and kill him and histeam in especially the friday stage ove rmadeleine. he ha sporte, yes but if he blows up like he did in pyrenees, froome will have to do all on his own. I think/hope saxo are still in fighting spsirit en movistar and katusha are for surewarmfuzzies said:Now that it is painfully obvious that Froome is the strongest man at this year's Tour, all that's left for the Contador fans is to snark about the Sky DS. What an awesome display today up Ventoux. It was highly competitive until the last 2 kms. Contador does not have the form to compete for the top spot, but he was competitive and limited his losses.
Those 4 UCI WT points could be important.Cycle Chic said:http://www.newstalk.ie/player/podcasts/Off_The_Ball/Off_The_Ball_Highlights/26760/2/paul_kimmage_tour_report
Kimmage discusses Porte in the Newstalk session. He says its bizarre why Porte rode so strong in the Time Trial after Sundays performance and the rest day. Why was Porte riding so strong when he should have been saving himself to support Froome. ??
or could just have been that Porte didn't need to save energy as theres bucketloads there.
Surely its Brailsford's job to say which rider does what. Kimmage was making the point that it was a strange decision.wwabbit said:Those 4 UCI WT points could be important.
Well, to be serious, he has said that he rode it to lift his own morale and prove that there is nothing wrong with him.
...except that we have now seen that he is having alternating good and bad days.
Makes sense. I think we saw that today. Pretend to bonk and lose no time.Pricey_sky said:It was all a cunning plan I can see him plotting now; Let's give the peleton a sniff of weakness and raise their hopes a little. Even give them a minute in the crosswinds before the killer blow today.
did you notice 20th C fox on rear of team sky shorts.............such events are all to add drama to the forthcoming film versionthehog said:Makes sense. I think we saw that today. Pretend to bonk and lose no time.
Like I said on another thread, Manchester based premiumebandit said:did you notice 20th C fox on rear of team sky shorts.............such events are all to add drama to the forthcoming film version
exclusively broadcast on the sky network
Agree - I think Yates was the key - however I bet he is still working with them but you cant do much unless you,re sitting in the car in the race.thehog said:
If Wiggins was one to enjoy schadenfreude, he would be in heaven. That is not to say he isn't a prima donna like the rest of Sky's talent, just that Brailsford put all his faith upon one rider alone - Froome - when that failed he pretended that having Porte was good enough for his high euro, high profile, high ego squad.Netserk said:Is Sky tactically inept? Yes!
They only know one tactic and that's being the strongest....
Yates and Sutton were gone long before Froome dominated last year's Tour. They did win the previous two Tours. What could have Brailsford have done to win the race after Froome crashed out ? The odds were they were not going to win and even Froome's form was not as good as last year the same as Porte. Nieve would not have done any better than Porte and possibly worse. Nieve might be a very good domestique but Porte has that box ticked as well. The only thing they could have done was to include Wiggo which would not have stopped Porte's collapse yesterday and no one expected Wiggo to win the Tour anyway let alone podium. The only other tactic they could have played was to go for stage wins which they might do now anyway.thehog said: