True, those wins are more important to those who know them while newer fans will be more impressed by the time in yellow I'm guessing.Echoes said:Meaningless.
He won Paris-Tours/Autumn GP, two Francfurt GP, Zurich and Switzerland. His most important wins.
And those who've seen the 1988 Flanders could admire his skills.
Edit: Oh and since when is a stage win in the Dauphiné more important than Quebec GP?
42x16ss said:True, those wins are more important to those who know them while newer fans will be more impressed by the time in yellow I'm guessing.
Also, Anderson is a GC winner of the Dauphine, not just a stage winnerIMHO he's the best classics rider without a monument win
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WonderLance said:Yeah, Simmo is a tough smart racer easily the best that Australia has ever produced, easy= better than this guy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubert_Opperman
I keep forgetting that Maertens never won a monument! Hard to believe considering the rest of his palmaresLibertine Seguros said:Freddy Maertens?
I guess Anderson was closer to the win in the monuments more often than Freddy, and won most of the same other Classics and semi-Classics (Paris-Tours, E3, Henninger Turm, Züri-Metzgete, Henninger Turm). Anderson won Amstel Gold, but Freddy won Gent-Wevelgem, Omloop het Volk, Paris-Bruxelles, and two World Championships, which has me leaning towards Freddy.
Oh hang on, Freddy won The Official Worst Race In The World®. Anderson it is.
WonderLance said:Yeah, Simmo is a tough smart racer easily the best that Australia has ever produced, easy= better than this guy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubert_Opperman
42x16ss said:True, those wins are more important to those who know them while newer fans will be more impressed by the time in yellow I'm guessing.
42x16ss said:Also, Anderson is a GC winner of the Dauphine, not just a stage winnerIMHO he's the best classics rider without a monument win
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Echoes said:The day Evans finishes twice a runner-up in Flanders and finishes Paris-Roubaix, I'll re-consider my thought.
What I find surprising is that some pro's don't feel that way about such an iconic race. A couple of years ago I asked Tiago Machado about it and he said that he wasn't built for it... Hell if I was a pro, even if I was a sub60 climber I would want to ride it at least once in my career.Echoes said:With all the more reason, he should race it, then.
Charly Mottet said: "if you haven't raced Paris-Roubaix, you aren't a cycling rider."![]()
trevim said:What I find surprising is that some pro's don't feel that way about such an iconic race. A couple of years ago I asked Tiago Machado about it and he said that he wasn't built for it... Hell if I was a pro, even if I was a sub60 climber I would want to ride it at least once in my career.
movingtarget said:It's also a dangerous race. Hinault rode it once just to say he he could win it which he did but hated it. Contador never rode it. Most of today's GC riders haven't and most of them could not win it anyway. It's just too risky although I think Vino and Evans may have done okay. Both heavier for their height than most GC riders and also very good bike handlers.
Evans said shortly after that he'd never attempt the full event, he was knocked around too much. You could see it towards the end, when Hushovd, Thomas, Hesjedal and Cance simply left him in the sprint.Archibald said:wasn't Evans at the pointy end with Schlecklet and Spartacus when the TdF last visited the cobbles?
Bodes well for him to race the full event
Archibald said:wasn't Evans at the pointy end with Schlecklet and Spartacus when the TdF last visited the cobbles?
Bodes well for him to race the full event
blackcat said:I would have Gerrans above Ogrady, Mcewen, Goss, Evans, and Anderson, as the best ever Australian roadie.
He knows how to smell a win and capitalise
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movingtarget said:It's also a dangerous race. Hinault rode it once just to say he he could win it which he did but hated it.
That doesn't stage doesn't mean anything regarding cobble's skills. They were all together, there was a crash, groups appeared, people hung on. Nothing else.Archibald said:wasn't Evans at the pointy end with Schlecklet and Spartacus when the TdF last visited the cobbles?
Bodes well for him to race the full event
Echoes said:Documentate, please. Hinault rode it at least 7 times and finished 5 times, right ! He liked it more than people said he did. No rider has ever won it on first attempt !
Echoes said:Round where I live, everybody knows those races. Not necessarily cycling fans.
I was talking about Gerrans there (but I made a mistake it was in Switzerland 2006 !) and not addressed to you but that post: http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=1384441&postcount=21
When Anderson raced, there were no such things as monuments. The label came in the late eighties when the World Cup boosted some exotic races and then it became "official" in 2005 with the Pro Tour.
When Anderson raced, Paris-Tours was sort of equally as important as the Tour of Flanders and the Arrow was equally as important in Liège-Bastogne. There were a dozen classics, period.
Echoes said:Documentate, please. Hinault rode it at least 7 times and finished 5 times, right ! He liked it more than people said he did. No rider has ever won it on first attempt !
It's not a dangerous race, just a tricky one, said Fignon. If Paris-Roubaix is dangerous, what about all these GT's with their descents where so many already died !
Evans is 68kg form weight. He's heavier than say Stybar.