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Brooks Fahey Baldwin said:
For an elite cyclist, it will give you an amazing energy boost.... for about seven seconds as you roll gently off the start line.

Creatine diminshes after 7 revs of the pedals?. lol. I guess you haven't used it.

Creatine is in the blood for hours, not 7 seconds. It can make a rider explosive, roll & go, roll & go, constantly. A creatine rider will certainly have an advantage over a placibo one. (That is why it needs banning, sooner rather than later).

Looks like C. Evans is heeding my advice. :)
 

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Brooks Fahey Baldwin said:
Hi all. Long time lurker, first time poster.

May I just begin with the comment "ahhhh first year biochemistry, burn out my eyes". I would then like to point out how creatine works.

I have the feeling that Green Tea is either increadibly dim, but more likely a troll. Have you ever noticed the consistent overuse of question marks my trolls???????
I mean, I just dont understand, what is with that?????? Of course we all know that lance will never test positive right?????????

Anyway, creatine works in the body by acting as an intermediate for direct phosphorylation of glucose to ATP. In short, its amazing for short bursts of energy. If you go to the gym to get big man boobs, then it will help you squeeze out one or two more reps in a set.
For an elite cyclist, it will give you an amazing energy boost.... for about seven seconds as you roll gently off the start line.

Blood boosters are great for lactic buffering. Of course they dont act dirrectly on the cori cycle etc, but they provide more oxygen to the tissues, so you can push harder before your legs even begin to produce lactic acid through anaerobic metabolism.

Hope I wasnt pointing out the obvious to anyone. If you want legit PED's try hitting some echinacea and iron supplements :)

Ohhh boy, Lets not compare echinacea and iron supplements to advanced creatine.
 
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petethedrummer said:
Think of all those riders dying from heart attacks, the suspensions, the fallen heroes, the wasted time and resources of those testing laboratories, when all the time blood boosting does nothing to enhance performance. Green Tea has stumbled upon something that no cyclist, DS, team Doctor or trainer has realised. Creatine is the real deal........ Amateur Rugby was right all along.

I for one want a part of the action. Green Tea, if you want to go into distribution I will invest. I have this Nigerian Prince emailing me, wanting to give (that's right, GIVE) me money. This could be huge.

Please tell him to call me the next time he emails you. I am anxiously awaiting the 6,000,000,000,000 he said he would send me as part of helping get his political prisoner uncle out of the graybar...
 

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All I'm saying is, when you see guys like Cancellara, Contador, Armstrong etc putting in great performances & power outputs, don't worry or hate, there not doping or doing anything illegal, just taking legal alternatives which should be banned, but nonetheless do just as good a job. I never put great performances down to EPO, becuase they don't need to do it.
 
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Green Tea said:
All I'm saying is, when you see guys like Cancellara, Contador, Armstrong etc putting in great performances & power outputs, don't worry or hate, there not doping or doing anything illegal, just taking legal alternatives which should be banned, but nonetheless do just as good a job. I never put great performances down to EPO, becuase they don't need to do it.

And the mothership is on the way. Prepare by burning incense and donning your bubble-wrap suit. It will all be over soon.
 
BikeCentric said:
Creatine is kind of laughable for a bike racer though and here's why. It's been shown to improve your 5-second (sprint) power by something like 20 or 30 watts. First off that's a very small gain but sure it can make the difference; I've lost bike races by a centimeter before and 20 or 30 watts will make that difference! But anyway creatine also makes you put on 3-5 pounds of water weight. I would posit that lugging an extra 3-5 pounds all the way to the finish line would completely negate that small increase in sprint power and that is certainly how I felt when I tried the stuff.

taken in smaller doses appropriate for a cyclist you might see a weight gain or 3lbs, maybe less. it is lean mass and looked at differently than fat mass. most likely the extra h2o is a benefit as well. the phosphocreatine system does recover during periods of decreased effort and in those cases it can be called upon repeatedly. sounds low but pretending 20-30 watts is accurate for you, it would be available to you on numerous occassions thruout the event. ie sprinting accross a split to rejoin a group going up the road, sprinting to get back in when you're behind a crash, primes/intermediate sprints, not to mention sprinting at the finish.

not on board with green tea, he sounds like a kook. we don't need to ban creatine.

this thread has gone pearshaped again and i don't care to contribute to it or to argue. use creatine, don't use creatine....what do I care?
 
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Colm.Murphy said:
And the mothership is on the way. Prepare by burning incense and donning your bubble-wrap suit. It will all be over soon.

You see how all his shoes are facing southwest? IT KEEPS THE GOBLINS ASLEEP
 

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lean said:
it is lean mass and looked at differently than fat mass. most likely the extra h2o is a benefit as well. the phosphocreatine system does recover during periods of decreased effort and in those cases it can be called upon repeatedly.

Thankyou...

That decreased effort is sitting in the bunch or on a wheel.

& your a kook too.
 
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All I'm saying is, when you see guys like Cancellara, Contador, Armstrong etc putting in great performances & power outputs, don't worry or hate, there not doping or doing anything illegal, just taking legal alternatives which should be banned, but nonetheless do just as good a job. I never put great performances down to EPO, becuase they don't need to do it.

Deadspace! I trust you are well :D