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Is Walsh on the Sky bandwagon?

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thehog said:
Ax3. Nothing to see here.

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WTF!

He is smoking some serious, serious sh!t that kid.

Herein lies part of the disconnect between the riders and the media.

Ah, so when you're persuing LA it suits you then does it, but when Sky are paying you it doesnt.

What a complete and utter stain.
 
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Digger said:
Got the end of Walsh's interview on Irish radio where he said the testing will catch up with the dopers...and froome being clean is evidence of this...:rolleyes:

So there are tests for HGH, transfusions, GAS 6, and CO doping!!!

Is that available online?

BTW there is a test for HGH.
 
Digger said:
Porte

It fits in with what ashenden said last year - that he had a tip off from someone who told him there was a small core group of guys from a new age team doping.

Porte!!!! How could I forget him? :rolleyes:

Question for me is: Why didn't they put any of the classics riders on the program. Is there any reason for that? Economical reasons come to mind (so expensive that they can only focus on TdF guys) or maybe a special built up is needed so that the classics are too early in the season and effects wouldn't show?

Any ideas?
 
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Fred Grappe responding to the Walsh book portraying French teams are behind in technique:

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Marginal Fred.
 
JimPanzen said:
Porte!!!! How could I forget him? :rolleyes:

Question for me is: Why didn't they put any of the classics riders on the program. Is there any reason for that? Economical reasons come to mind (so expensive that they can only focus on TdF guys) or maybe a special built up is needed so that the classics are too early in the season and effects wouldn't show?

Any ideas?

Too many factors they cannot control in just one day?
 
The reward of being cynical is that you are usually right. Here is a prime example. The naive might have thought Walsh actually cared about doping or exposing corruption as he pursued Armstrong. The cynical saw it as just a way for him to gain prominence so he could get choice assignments, like writing Team Sky wank material.

It is really interesting to watch once again. The same sort of amoral turds who built the Armstrong myth are at work building the Sky myth. These guys know they are lying. No one can be stupid enough not to know, especially when they saw everything that happened during the last fifteen years. They know and they don't care. It is all a scam to line their own pockets. The ones who did not get in on the Armstrong con are determined to get theirs this time around.
 
JimPanzen said:
Porte!!!! How could I forget him? :rolleyes:

Question for me is: Why didn't they put any of the classics riders on the program. Is there any reason for that? Economical reasons come to mind (so expensive that they can only focus on TdF guys) or maybe a special built up is needed so that the classics are too early in the season and effects wouldn't show?

Any ideas?
They might have put Geraint Thomas on the program, which could explain why he weirdly was separated from the rest of the classics team during the entire winter (the rest were training in Mallorca, G was training in Australia with Porte). However, a program doesn't help when you crash out of every race.
 
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BroDeal said:
The reward of being cynical is that you are usually right. Here is a prime example. The naive might have thought Walsh actually cared about doping or exposing corruption as he pursued Armstrong. The cynical saw it as just a way for him to gain prominence so he could get choice assignments

This is such BS. Michelle Smith? Stephen Roche? FIFA?
 
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maltiv said:
They might have put Geraint Thomas on the program, which could explain why he weirdly was separated from the rest of the classics team during the entire winter (the rest were training in Mallorca, G was training in Australia with Porte). However, a program doesn't help when you crash out of every race.

Could be, they were training with cj sutton as well and we all know how he tore up the 2013 calender
 
The Hitch said:
More than anything else, what hits me is that Walsh …

--Snipped for brevity--

ps, fearless greg lemond, you are some kind of masochist reading through that whole book.

Not reading the book, don't need to. But love your Columbus commentary. I'll add that we should not forget that Columbus missed his intended destination by an entire friggin continent (He was aiming for India). And soundly beaten by the Vikings to the American coast. Not sure why anyone bothers celebrating Columbus day in the US.
 
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BroDeal said:
It is not like he just woke one day and decided to throw integrity out the window to write a risible book excusing Sky. People who sell out like that are venal from the get go. They just wait for the opportunity to cash in.

Is it so hard to believe that he actually believes what he's written, even if no-one here does?

I agree with gooner:

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Where I defend Walsh is that he has somehow compromised himself to the point where he won't report on anything that he feels suspicious about. On the JTL story, he had his suspicions after his tweet saying he didn't have the form to start the worlds. Later, he spoke to 3 cycling fans who were also talking about it and afterwards he rang up Brailsford who didn't answer his phone when he was about to ask him on the subject. He then says he enquired around contacting various people in anti-doping and other teams and found out there was a story in all this. He again rings up Brailsford to ask him about it and say he was running it on the Sunday Times. Now if he's a sellout, why act on the suspicion? Wouldn't he ignore it? Instead he criticises the team and Brailsford for not knowing about the l'Equipe article which questioned JTL in early 2012.

Remember as well, he wrote books on Roche and Kelly and in the case of Roche, it didn't stop him going to Italy for a week to get the details behind his link to Conconi when it first came out. He was a lot closer to Roche and Kelly back then compared to Froome now. Similar with Lance who he was eulogising about back in 1993 after he interviewed him. He spoke glowingly to Kimmage about Lance afterwards on the back of it. Did that stop him later? Take the Lance and Michelle de Bruijn success, those were tough times for him and he also was taken to task during the Roche/Conconi story on national TV for daring to question. In the UK, the Sunday Times, including Walsh were heavily criticised for investigating and uncovering FIFA corruption all during the World Cup nomination process which many felt sabotaged England's hopes of hosting the World Cup in 2018. He was on Sky Sports News after that failed bid defending the ST investigation under tough questioning of their role and specifically their timing of it.

I just don't buy the bandwagon claim that he's taking it easy now and cashing in turning a blind eye when I take this history into account. He has gone for the difficult story even when it wouldn't be popular and at some stages it affected his family life(Kimmage told him to back off at one and forget about Lance due to it). No doubt he has been hugely impressed by what he has seen at Sky but I see no reason to say he won't report on anything untoward with substance if he comes across it in the future. He has done it before even after admiring initially in the first place. The JTL story reassures me with his reporting on Sky now.
 
mattghg said:
Is it so hard to believe that he actually believes what he's written, even if no-one here does?

The quotes posted so far show a carefully planned lie. He spent a lot of time thinking about how to excuse Froome's ridiculous performance then spent even more time on the rhetoric downplaying comparisons with Armstrong. It was not an accident. It was a deliberate decision to write propaganda. He is conscientiously targeting mugs who do not know enough about cycling to see through the sophistry. The glaring falsehoods and inconsistencies that people are pointing out here will not be noticed by the suckers, and Walsh knows it.
 
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thehog said:
Ax3. Nothing to see here.

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So the evidence that Froome is dopings is "flimsy", yet we are supposed to believe that clean riders can now climb faster than in the dopings era based on what exactly? Because Kerrison says so?

Oh, and the 2001 stage was the day after a rest day, so his "they were more fresh in 2013 argument" is bs too.

Walsh reminds me of this guy.

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thehog said:
Like a jilted lover left at the alter...



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If Walsh finds ellingworths action so impressive, presumably he won't have been very pleased and perhaps a tad suspicon with Wiggins and all the praise he gave Basso and pantani in May. Does Walsh mention it in the book? If I saw ripping up the poster of a doper so fantastic, I would probably feel the opposite it a tdf winner was saying riding with pantani was one of his all time life moments.
 
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The Hitch said:
If Walsh finds ellingworths action so impressive, presumably he won't have been very pleased and perhaps a tad suspicon with Wiggins and all the praise he gave Basso and pantani in May. Does Walsh mention it in the book? If I saw ripping up the poster of a doper so fantastic, I would probably feel the opposite it a tdf winner was saying riding with pantani was one of his all time life moments.
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Yeah, he must have been quite the talent.

Good thing he is a great coach.
 
Which genius mod decided it was a good idea to have a Walsh book thread with no discussion allowed?

The Muppetarium over at Bike Radar is absolutely obsessed with what is being said in this forum. Since the mods have effectively killed this place, it might be a good idea for people to register at BR and clue the Muppets in to a little truth.
 

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BroDeal said:
The reward of being cynical is that you are usually right. Here is a prime example. The naive might have thought Walsh actually cared about doping or exposing corruption as he pursued Armstrong. The cynical saw it as just a way for him to gain prominence so he could get choice assignments, like writing Team Sky wank material.

Indeed, BroDeal.

And the fact that "Flawed fairytale" was published some ten years before TeamSky came into existence in no way whatsoever detracts from the logic of your suggestion; why, it merely highlights Walsh's demonic clairvoyence, the psychic swine that he is!

And then you wonder why BikeRadar types mock you...
 
BroDeal said:
Which genius mod decided it was a good idea to have a Walsh book thread with no discussion allowed?

The Muppetarium over at Bike Radar is absolutely obsessed with what is being said in this forum. Since the mods have effectively killed this place, it might be a good idea for people to register at BR and clue the Muppets in to a little truth.

Not one braincell to rub together over there...outside of whiteboytrash...they are USP fans but in another country and ten years later...clueless doesn't even come near it...national bias.