Is Walsh on the Sky bandwagon?

[samhocking]

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that's more hypocrisy from walsh.

what's the point of asking for brailsford's head.

as if this story were about mismanagement.
when it is about rampant doping.

This is why i suspect Sky/Murdoch want rid of Brailsford, because the story is doping on a team Sky from Wiggins to Froome.

Why is everyone concentrating on Brailsford and ignoring others?

Why is Wiggins not being asked by Commons Comm what he took?

Great question!

Because the Select Committee enquiry is about Combatting Doping in Sport, not just about Team Sky & Wiggins package. This committee with BC & Sky was an ad-hoc session added before the main afternoon session with WADA directors after the Daily Mail published the story I believe.

 

[Benotti69]

Walsh grilled on offtheball

a stuttering mess.

http://www.newstalk.com/podcasts/Off_The_Ball/Highlights_from_Off_The_Ball/172278/David_Walsh_on_Team_Sky_Brailsford_Froome_Leinders

Armstrong will be laughing if he listens.

Landis the guy who took down Armstrong, not Walsh.

 

[red_flanders]

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Walsh grilled on offtheball

a stuttering mess.

http://www.newstalk.com/podcasts/Off_The_Ball/Highlights_from_Off_The_Ball/172278/David_Walsh_on_Team_Sky_Brailsford_Froome_Leinders

Armstrong will be laughing if he listens.

Landis the guy who took down Armstrong, not Walsh.

Interesting. He has a problem with massive doses of corticosteroids for Wiggins via Zorzoli, but no mention of this with Froome in Romandie?

Still in total denial about Leinders, falling back on "due dilligence" line. Can't believe he can seriously believe what he's saying.

EDIT: Wow, this guy does grill him pretty good on Froome. Glad to hear someone out there pressing him hard. His answers are preposterous. "I'm not interested in being popular". FFS. As if you didn't say all this to sell your book. What a massive douche this guy is. Painful listen.

 

[Scott SoCal]

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Make "The Package"" episode 1 "Skyfall" episode 2, "The Doper" Episode 3 etc

What about the prequel, "Revenge of the Bots"?

Walsh was never a bot. He was always a parasite. He feeds off the host. Sometimes that feeding benefits the host; other times that feeding hurts it. Walsh is a reporter--he doesn't care.

Indeed. I almost...well never mind, I do have more disdain for him than I do Sky in this episode. I find it impossible to believe he really believed all the rot he was printing about them and that he missed the mounds of evidence that they were lying about..almost everything. He was complicit and he did it for money.

Like the great American lyricist Cyndi Lauper wrote, "money changes everything."

 

[thehog]

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Make "The Package"" episode 1 "Skyfall" episode 2, "The Doper" Episode 3 etc

What about the prequel, "Revenge of the Bots"?

Walsh was never a bot. He was always a parasite. He feeds off the host. Sometimes that feeding benefits the host; other times that feeding hurts it. Walsh is a reporter--he doesn't care.

Indeed. I almost...well never mind, I do have more disdain for him than I do Sky in this episode. I find it impossible to believe he really believed all the rot he was printing about them and that he missed the mounds of evidence that they were lying about..almost everything. He was complicit and he did it for money.

Like the great American lyricist Cyndi Lauper wrote, "money changes everything."

I thought she said, girls just want to have fun?

 

[Scott SoCal]

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Make "The Package"" episode 1 "Skyfall" episode 2, "The Doper" Episode 3 etc

Add "House of Cards"...

 

[TeflonDub]

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Make "The Package"" episode 1 "Skyfall" episode 2, "The Doper" Episode 3 etc

Add "House of Cards"...

You definitely have to make room between 'The Package' and 'Skyfall' for 'The Transporter' and 'The French Connection'!

 

[Nicko.]

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Make "The Package"" episode 1 "Skyfall" episode 2, "The Doper" Episode 3 etc

Add "House of Cards"...

You definitely have to make room between 'The Package' and 'Skyfall' for 'The Transporter' and 'The French Connection'!

Dave Brailsford is Keyser Söze.

 

[yaco]

Yes it was a good interview which put Walsh under pressure at times - Though at the same time if the INTERVIEWER comes from the position,that Froome and other Sky riders are doping, which was strongly inferred during the interview, it makes your job easier as the interviewer - Thought the interview lacked some balance.

 

[Benotti69]

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Yes it was a good interview which put Walsh under pressure at times - Though at the same time if the INTERVIEWER comes from the position,that Froome and other Sky riders are doping, which was strongly inferred during the interview, it makes your job easier as the interviewer - Thought the interview lacked some balance.

Walsh was the 'balance'.

He believes Froome is clean.

How he manages that when Froome rides for Sky/Brailsford is pie in the sky stuff.

 

[red_flanders]

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Yes it was a good interview which put Walsh under pressure at times - Though at the same time if the INTERVIEWER comes from the position,that Froome and other Sky riders are doping, which was strongly inferred during the interview, it makes your job easier as the interviewer - Thought the interview lacked some balance.

The interviewer came from the position of, "given what you said about Lance's and Contador's speeds uphill, how can you not be suspicious of Froome". An entirely reasonable position and an oft-asked question in this forum/thread.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

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Yes it was a good interview which put Walsh under pressure at times - Though at the same time if the INTERVIEWER comes from the position,that Froome and other Sky riders are doping, which was strongly inferred during the interview, it makes your job easier as the interviewer - Thought the interview lacked some balance.

The interviewer came from the position of, "given what you said about Lance's and Contador's speeds uphill, how can you not be suspicious of Froome". An entirely reasonable position and an oft-asked question in this forum/thread.

As usual you come from a good position with your post. I was thinking the same thing while listening to that interview. As an aside have you noticed the interesting moto rumblings? It is my opinion that this might very well be something and while all the focus has been on the PED's that somehow Walsh was snookered.

 

[thehog]

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Yes it was a good interview which put Walsh under pressure at times - Though at the same time if the INTERVIEWER comes from the position,that Froome and other Sky riders are doping, which was strongly inferred during the interview, it makes your job easier as the interviewer - Thought the interview lacked some balance.

The interviewer came from the position of, "given what you said about Lance's and Contador's speeds uphill, how can you not be suspicious of Froome". An entirely reasonable position and an oft-asked question in this forum/thread.

As usual you come from a good position with your post. I was thinking the same thing while listening to that interview. As an aside have you noticed the interesting moto rumblings? It is my opinion that this might very well be something and while all the focus has been on the PED's that somehow Walsh was snookered.

It was awesome when the mentioned Ventoux and Walsh muttered "tailwind"! It was too funny :lol:

 

[TheSpud]

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Yes it was a good interview which put Walsh under pressure at times - Though at the same time if the INTERVIEWER comes from the position,that Froome and other Sky riders are doping, which was strongly inferred during the interview, it makes your job easier as the interviewer - Thought the interview lacked some balance.

The interviewer came from the position of, "given what you said about Lance's and Contador's speeds uphill, how can you not be suspicious of Froome". An entirely reasonable position and an oft-asked question in this forum/thread.

As usual you come from a good position with your post. I was thinking the same thing while listening to that interview. As an aside have you noticed the interesting moto rumblings? It is my opinion that this might very well be something and while all the focus has been on the PED's that somehow Walsh was snookered.

It was awesome when the mentioned Ventoux and Walsh muttered "tailwind"! It was too funny :lol:

If its possible for a headwind / crosswind to slow riders down, then surely a wind from a slightly different direction could in fact assist a rider?

 

[sniper]

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Yes it was a good interview which put Walsh under pressure at times - Though at the same time if the INTERVIEWER comes from the position,that Froome and other Sky riders are doping, which was strongly inferred during the interview, it makes your job easier as the interviewer - Thought the interview lacked some balance.

The interviewer came from the position of, "given what you said about Lance's and Contador's speeds uphill, how can you not be suspicious of Froome". An entirely reasonable position and an oft-asked question in this forum/thread.

As usual you come from a good position with your post. I was thinking the same thing while listening to that interview. As an aside have you noticed the interesting moto rumblings? It is my opinion that this might very well be something and while all the focus has been on the PED's that somehow Walsh was snookered.

It was awesome when the mentioned Ventoux and Walsh muttered "tailwind"! It was too funny :lol:

poor Contador, didn't catch any of that tailwind.

It was hilarious indeed.
When the numbers spoke against Froome, Walsh suddenly claimed not to know anything about numbers anymore.

 

[thehog]

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Yes it was a good interview which put Walsh under pressure at times - Though at the same time if the INTERVIEWER comes from the position,that Froome and other Sky riders are doping, which was strongly inferred during the interview, it makes your job easier as the interviewer - Thought the interview lacked some balance.

The interviewer came from the position of, "given what you said about Lance's and Contador's speeds uphill, how can you not be suspicious of Froome". An entirely reasonable position and an oft-asked question in this forum/thread.

As usual you come from a good position with your post. I was thinking the same thing while listening to that interview. As an aside have you noticed the interesting moto rumblings? It is my opinion that this might very well be something and while all the focus has been on the PED's that somehow Walsh was snookered.

It was awesome when the mentioned Ventoux and Walsh muttered "tailwind"! It was too funny :lol:

If its possible for a headwind / crosswind to slow riders down, then surely a wind from a slightly different direction could in fact assist a rider?

When it comes to Froome, anything is possible, including riding time trials in sand shoes. If only the select committee could have got it the bottom of that story'! :lol:

 

[red_flanders]

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Yes it was a good interview which put Walsh under pressure at times - Though at the same time if the INTERVIEWER comes from the position,that Froome and other Sky riders are doping, which was strongly inferred during the interview, it makes your job easier as the interviewer - Thought the interview lacked some balance.

The interviewer came from the position of, "given what you said about Lance's and Contador's speeds uphill, how can you not be suspicious of Froome". An entirely reasonable position and an oft-asked question in this forum/thread.

As usual you come from a good position with your post. I was thinking the same thing while listening to that interview. As an aside have you noticed the interesting moto rumblings? It is my opinion that this might very well be something and while all the focus has been on the PED's that somehow Walsh was snookered.

Thanks–it's hard to imagine Team Sky's consistent success is the result of such antics. Seems too dangerous. I guess some team is doing it though. No idea. The whole motorized doping thing blows my mind.

 

[sniper]

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Yes it was a good interview which put Walsh under pressure at times - Though at the same time if the INTERVIEWER comes from the position,that Froome and other Sky riders are doping, which was strongly inferred during the interview, it makes your job easier as the interviewer - Thought the interview lacked some balance.

The interviewer came from the position of, "given what you said about Lance's and Contador's speeds uphill, how can you not be suspicious of Froome". An entirely reasonable position and an oft-asked question in this forum/thread.

As usual you come from a good position with your post. I was thinking the same thing while listening to that interview. As an aside have you noticed the interesting moto rumblings? It is my opinion that this might very well be something and while all the focus has been on the PED's that somehow Walsh was snookered.

Thanks–it's hard to imagine Team Sky's consistent success is the result of such antics. Seems too dangerous. I guess some team is doing it though. No idea. The whole motorized doping thing blows my mind.

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[ColonelKidneyBeans]

Re: Re:

Yes it was a good interview which put Walsh under pressure at times - Though at the same time if the INTERVIEWER comes from the position,that Froome and other Sky riders are doping, which was strongly inferred during the interview, it makes your job easier as the interviewer - Thought the interview lacked some balance.

The interviewer came from the position of, "given what you said about Lance's and Contador's speeds uphill, how can you not be suspicious of Froome". An entirely reasonable position and an oft-asked question in this forum/thread.

As usual you come from a good position with your post. I was thinking the same thing while listening to that interview. As an aside have you noticed the interesting moto rumblings? It is my opinion that this might very well be something and while all the focus has been on the PED's that somehow Walsh was snookered.

It was awesome when the mentioned Ventoux and Walsh muttered "tailwind"! It was too funny :lol:

If its possible for a headwind / crosswind to slow riders down, then surely a wind from a slightly different direction could in fact assist a rider?

I recall there was a lengthy debate on twitter and this forum at the time (i was lurking at the time), i won't pretend i've read everything or that i remember all of it, but i think that the consensus (with some actual data from the meteorological stations) was that there was a tailwind for the sheltered parts of the climb, where the asistance would be minimal, and headwind/crosswinds for the lasts exposed 5km where it would be more detrimental.

 

[red_flanders]

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I recall there was a lengthy debate on twitter and this forum at the time (i was lurking at the time), i won't pretend i've read everything or that i remember all of it, but i think that the consensus (with some actual data from the meteorological stations) was that there was a tailwind for the sheltered parts of the climb, where the asistance would be minimal, and headwind/crosswinds for the lasts exposed 5km where it would be more detrimental.

You have digested the facts of that situation very well, which is quite something given the level of kruft which was thrown about in the thread.

 

[ColonelKidneyBeans]

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I recall there was a lengthy debate on twitter and this forum at the time (i was lurking at the time), i won't pretend i've read everything or that i remember all of it, but i think that the consensus (with some actual data from the meteorological stations) was that there was a tailwind for the sheltered parts of the climb, where the asistance would be minimal, and headwind/crosswinds for the lasts exposed 5km where it would be more detrimental.

You have digested the facts of that situation very well, which is quite something given the level of kruft which was thrown about in the thread.

Ha yes that discussion was a bit of a mess to put it mildly. I nearly registered at the time just to use the ignore feature :lol: Anyway, ventoux was a crazy performance but PSM and AX3 are nearly as suspicious (maybe more if the performance of the team as a whole counts, i still can't believe what i've seen with porte and thomas on PSM)

 

[Digger]

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I recall there was a lengthy debate on twitter and this forum at the time (i was lurking at the time), i won't pretend i've read everything or that i remember all of it, but i think that the consensus (with some actual data from the meteorological stations) was that there was a tailwind for the sheltered parts of the climb, where the asistance would be minimal, and headwind/crosswinds for the lasts exposed 5km where it would be more detrimental.

You have digested the facts of that situation very well, which is quite something given the level of kruft which was thrown about in the thread.

Ha yes that discussion was a bit of a mess to put it mildly. I nearly registered at the time just to use the ignore feature :lol: Anyway, ventoux was a crazy performance but PSM and AX3 are nearly as suspicious (maybe more if the performance of the team as a whole counts, i still can't believe what i've seen with porte and thomas on PSM)

headwind tailwind whatever it was, one thing not commented enough at the time was the nature of the attacks - nuts...seated barely able to keep the pedals moving fast enough

 

[Angliru]

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Wonder is Walsh starting a script for Sky's Deadly Sins........

Could be a film in it.....'The Package'.

:lol:
Soundtrack: Will Smith, "gettin' jiffy wit it"

Scrub 'The Package' idea.

How about 'Skyfall'?

Rowan Atkinson to play Brailsford perhaps

...or we could exhume and reanimate Uncle Fester from the Addams Family.

 

[ColonelKidneyBeans]

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I recall there was a lengthy debate on twitter and this forum at the time (i was lurking at the time), i won't pretend i've read everything or that i remember all of it, but i think that the consensus (with some actual data from the meteorological stations) was that there was a tailwind for the sheltered parts of the climb, where the asistance would be minimal, and headwind/crosswinds for the lasts exposed 5km where it would be more detrimental.

You have digested the facts of that situation very well, which is quite something given the level of kruft which was thrown about in the thread.

Ha yes that discussion was a bit of a mess to put it mildly. I nearly registered at the time just to use the ignore feature :lol: Anyway, ventoux was a crazy performance but PSM and AX3 are nearly as suspicious (maybe more if the performance of the team as a whole counts, i still can't believe what i've seen with porte and thomas on PSM)

headwind tailwind whatever it was, one thing not commented enough at the time was the nature of the attacks - nuts...seated barely able to keep the pedals moving fast enough

I remember Vasseur, who was commenting for FR2, being schocked at the time. "he's attacking like cancellara, sitting on the saddle, i've never seen that! unbelievable to attack on ventoux like that" (i'm doing a liberal translation from french of what was said)

 

[yaco]

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Yes it was a good interview which put Walsh under pressure at times - Though at the same time if the INTERVIEWER comes from the position,that Froome and other Sky riders are doping, which was strongly inferred during the interview, it makes your job easier as the interviewer - Thought the interview lacked some balance.

The interviewer came from the position of, "given what you said about Lance's and Contador's speeds uphill, how can you not be suspicious of Froome". An entirely reasonable position and an oft-asked question in this forum/thread.

Speeds uphill have reduced on average, since the heady days of the 1990's and 2000's - A more balanced interview would have played ' Devil's Advocate ' and even discussed performances of other teams - Anyway, I posted months ago that Walsh was compromised - Once you embed yourself in a team !