Is Walsh on the Sky bandwagon?

[thehog]

What?

I don't expect you to understand my post graduate humour

I can dumb down to Walsh level if you like?

Brailsford appeared from somewhere looking sad.

Dr. Peters said whats up Dave? Dave looked up with those big eyes and bald head and said "Doc they're at it again! Those French won't leave us alone. The questions about bad things are very nasty".

Tim Kerrison walks in the room from somewhere else looks at Dave then glances across to Dr. Peters and hugs them both in a spontaneous group hold. They squeeze each other tight and reassure each other that clean riders can surpass those from the doped era. "Everything's gonna be alright" they hummed in unison whilst hugging each other in a group embrace.

They beat the chimp and defeated the monkey.

If the moment couldn't become any more poignant at that instant a yellow butterfly flew into the team bus and landed on Brailsford's shoulder. They let go of the embrace and started to laugh out loud. Was it symbolism? Was it a message from higher place? As Brailsford wiped a tear from his eye he knew then that Chris would win the Tour and take yellow.

Yellow butterfly. Graceful and harmless. A beautiful moment in a beautiful year for Team Sky.

 

[martinvickers]

What's to read? Walsh wrote a love in about Sky to further their PR BS.

Your continued deflection is noted, B, and the proper conclusions drawn.

 

[martinvickers]

thats the thing.
but mv, gooner, and walsh will take everything sky say at face value.
Sky say x, so x must be true.
Walsh at least gets paid to be blind and ignore cycling,s history, but what,s gooner and mv,s excuse?

Ball not man, sniper.

 

[red_flanders]

lol yeah. Kerrison spends 2010 watching cycling because he knows nothing about it and by 2011 he is the ultimate cycling expert, devising super secret training methods that sound exactly like the ones everyone else has been using for the last decade but provide for significantly superior results.

According to Chris Boardman, Kerrison was even the strategic genius behind Wiggins beating Cancellara in the time trial. He knows more about time trialing after 2 years in a Sky car, than the 4 time world time trial champion

To believe in Sky not only do you have to believe that they have stumbled upon the 2 greatest athletes ever lived in wiggins and Froome (because their numbers if clean are about 3 or 4 levels above what anyone has ever acheived clean) but they also happened to stumble across the most hard working son of a gun on the planet (Brailsford's in the British press is roughly the equivalent of Alexey Stakhanov in Pravda) and they also have found the most intelligent and gifted scientist since Einstein in this Kerrison fella.

In fact I don't know if Einstein even has a case. I remember reading that if you were to show one generation, scientific developments from a few generations into the future, they will be indistinguishable from magic, Kerrison has actually beaten Einstein et all on this because his developments wouldnt only seem like magic to people from the 1800's. They seem like magic to everyone from his time period too.

If you believe Sky are clean you should be writing to the Nobel comitte demanding to know why he hasn't won the science prize yet (lets leave the peace a few years after he gets his US Presidential thank you for winning the war on doping)


And the amazing thing, is 3 of these 4 humans of the century Sky have on their roster, were total nobodies until Murdoch (who's honesty and belief in doing things the right way, no one can possibly doubt) came a calling.

More direct, on-point arguments from The Hitch.

I would love to see someone who thinks Sky are clean directly address the points Hitch makes RE: the performances of Froome and Wiggins and Kerrison's training plans.

They are, as far as I'm concerned, completely unexplained to this point.

If you just don't care and want to root for Sky, I have NO problem with that. Faith and belief are good things. But if you want to argue you think they're clean, someone, somewhere, please come up with an explanation for what we're seeing. Because no one clean has done what they're doing. No one.

 

[thehog]

More direct, on-point arguments from The Hitch.

I would love to see someone who thinks Sky are clean directly address the points Hitch makes RE: the performances of Froome and Wiggins and Kerrison's training plans.

They are, as far as I'm concerned, completely unexplained to this point.

If you just don't care and want to root for Sky, I have NO problem with that. Faith and belief are good things. But if you want to argue you think they're clean, someone, somewhere, please come up with an explanation for what we're seeing. Because no one clean has done what they're doing. No one.

That's the problem with the book. Walsh just addresses everyone who criticises Sky as not understanding the hard work and most are bitter.

He's does nothing to begin to explain why they're so strong. Some explanation or detail might have helped.

And the butterfly story is true. That's how soppy the book is.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

That's the problem with the book. Walsh just addresses everyone who criticises Sky as not understanding the hard work and most are bitter.

He's does nothing to begin to explain why they're so strong. Some explanation or detail might have helped.

And the butterfly story is true. That's how soppy the book is.

Even better, any doubter of Team Sky is a former Armstrong fan.

Well, that settles it...

 

[sniper]

...
And the butterfly story is true. That's how soppy the book is.

serious now hog, please tell me you made that up...

 

[thehog]

serious now hog, please tell me you made that up...

One free airsick bag with every book

 

[martinvickers]

One fee airsick bag with every book

It's a stupid story, right enough - but you do see the double-edge surely?

 

[thehog]

It's a stupid story, right enough - but you do see the double-edge surely?

Walsh's attempt at mise-en-scene perhaps? Maybe he was thinking ahead to selling the film rights and was thinking of cameras panning out from the butterfly to a scene of Ventoux?

But yes I do see the poor attempt at symbolism. I guess if it was a Rocky movie Froome would have beaten the evil Russian competitor on the last stage by 3 seconds. Instead or smashing the entire field on the first mountain stage!

You have to agree with me, Walsh has gone Mills & Boon on us.

Next up a romance novel?

 

[Ferminal]

I don't expect you to understand my post graduate humour

I can dumb down to Walsh level if you like?

Is that quote legit?

 

[thehog]

Is that quote legit?

My ditty was made up based on Walshary. But the butterfly story above is a reprint. But it's basically how the book reads. A love in. Swingers party for Sky fans.

 

[Parker]

Österreich-Rundfahrt 2010
1 ITA Riccardo Riccò ITA in 27h 35m 30s
2 ESP Sergio Pardilla Bellón ESP op 38s
3 ITA Emanuele Sella ITA op 01m 49s
4 POR Tiago José Machado Pinto POR op 02m 31s
5 RUS Artem Ovechkin RUS op 02m 34s
6 RUS Vladimir Gusev RUS op 03m 48s
7 AUT Stefan Denifl AUT op 04m 17s
8 ITA Morris Possoni ITA op 04m 28s
9 BEL Ben Hermans BEL op 05m 04s
10 NED Pieter Weening NED op 05m 07s
11 UKR Ruslan Pidgornyy UKR op 05m 13s
12 RSA John-Lee Augustyn RSA op 05m 40s
64 Christopher Froome (GBr) Sky Professional Cycling Team 0:32:03

??

That would be a great angle for an investigative journo. In my book at least.

The investigative journalist may work out that this was first race since abandoning the Giro with a knee injury. Not something to go full on - must do a job for the team - two in the top twelve I see.
On the flip side, even if a great talent like Froome is building form you would expect him to have a rack at a stage win. A top five on a challenging stage at least. But there's nothing like that (if you ignore the stage he came 4th on, which we must)

 

[Parker]

MOD NOTE: PLease note that it is agains the rules to refer to a user's real identity.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Brailsford appeared from somewhere looking sad.

Dr. Peters said whats up Dave? Dave looked up with those big eyes and bald head and said "Doc they're at it again! Those French won't leave us alone. The questions about bad things are very nasty".

Tim Kerrison walks in the room from somewhere else looks at Dave then glances across to Dr. Peters and hugs them both in a spontaneous group hold. They squeeze each other tight and reassure each other that clean riders can surpass those from the doped era. "Everything's gonna be alright" they hummed in unison whilst hugging each other in a group embrace.

They beat the chimp and defeated the monkey.

If the moment couldn't become any more poignant at that instant a yellow butterfly flew into the team bus and landed on Brailsford's shoulder. They let go of the embrace and started to laugh out loud. Was it symbolism? Was it a message from higher place? As Brailsford wiped a tear from his eye he knew then that Chris would win the Tour and take yellow.

Yellow butterfly. Graceful and harmless. A beautiful moment in a beautiful year for Team Sky.

You cannot be serious. Is this a quote from the book?

I'd be asking for my money back, and dry cleaning money for the vomit soaked shirt I was now wearing.

Good effing grief.

 

[blackcat]

Walsh's attempt at mise-en-scene perhaps? Maybe he was thinking ahead to selling the film rights and was thinking of cameras panning out from the butterfly to a scene of Ventoux?

But yes I do see the poor attempt at symbolism. I guess if it was a Rocky movie Froome would have beaten the evil Russian competitor on the last stage by 3 seconds. Instead or smashing the entire field on the first mountain stage!

You have to agree with me, Walsh has gone Mills & Boon on us.

Next up a romance novel?

luv to see the New Yorker fact checkers have to do that article/book

 

[blackcat]

Get on it Jens. You can still get it out there in time for the xmas market.


Snippet from the book
"And though the tears they were genuine and my heart was full of sorrow, there was joy there too because Il Killer went out guns blazing. Too often I've seen the greats of the sport turn into little girls when Father time comes. Confess their sins, parade their fat useless bodies in interview rooms, remind us of how sad their lives have become following the years of glory. In his final positive though Killer showed that he understood no one cares what happens after you retire. Though they caught him it was a pyrrhic defeat.
Di Luca lived like Tony Montana did. Live hard die young and take **** from no one. And like with Tony when all those rats were telling him that even crime has rules, that they have to pretend its clean now, crying in his ear "you ain't listening Danilo", urging him to be patient, use microdosing or AICAR or wait till he gets onto a protected team, he took out that vial marked "Epo", pointed it at their twisted hypocritical faces and watched the fear in the eyes as he uttered those words "say hello to my little friend"."

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squality post hitchie

 

[blackcat]

Grazie Bennot. Of course this was a rethorical question for Martinvickers, too bad the newest book of the dragon slayer did not cover this interesting subject. Why didnt Kerrisons training work in 2010? Why was it the best cyclist on earth had these kinda results:

i can answer that.

they were still training in the pool to build up their base and their lungs/ like in the 1960s but inverse, when they thought smoking up their lungs.

well, swimming actually was doing this, and they were still training in the pool, and if they had to race michael phelps or ian thorpe of pieter van den hoogenband or inge de bruin, farking eh, watch out.

that is the genius of kerrison. he really is a savant of the pool and the asphalt

 

[Ferminal]

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If Digger wants to tell us his name he is welcome to, but please don't tell us how to find it.

 

[jens_attacks]

one of the best so far,regarding kerrison

He is that rarest of coaches, the man who can make you a better performer in half an hour.

kerrison is like viagra!!!

 

[jens_attacks]

had no idea that cookson's son works for sky as a performance assistant.

gotta love this game!

lol at the french cops haha thinking that the blood goes in tha jaguars

cops:
‘You are cycling, cycling you carry blood, you know?’

epic!

 

[Digger]

The investigative journalist may work out that this was first race since abandoning the Giro with a knee injury. Not something to go full on - must do a job for the team - two in the top twelve I see.
On the flip side, even if a great talent like Froome is building form you would expect him to have a rack at a stage win. A top five on a challenging stage at least. But there's nothing like that (if you ignore the stage he came 4th on, which we must)

you seem to have a problem with me? Maybe my name, mobile number, parents names?

Yes the amazing froome was really flying in 2011, all through the year...even in big races like the tour of Poland...so much so that sky were offering him...nothing.

 

[sniper]

had no idea that cookson's son works for sky as a performance assistant.

gotta love this game!

lol at the french cops haha thinking that the blood goes in tha jaguars

cops:
‘You are cycling, cycling you carry blood, you know?’

epic!

what tha F? for real?

 

[jens_attacks]

what tha F? for real?

it seems so


and when the jaguar was pulled over and searched by the french cops, the BMC car while passing by, waved triumphantly. haha the basztards they thought it was over for the british

 

[theyoungest]

Cookson's partiality regarding Sky was already obvious even if you didn't know his son worked for them. He probably has some connections with Garmin too, given Vaughters' obsessive love for the guy. David Millar, probably.