Is Walsh on the Sky bandwagon?

[gooner]

Sadly not.

Sky rewriting their own PR. I bet that was page was written after 2011 Vuelta.

You took issue with a point by providing a link which actually proved it in the end.

Admit it.

 

[gooner]

I read the preview part on amazon...you know what, i'm not even angry with walsh anymore...it's just genuinely embarrassing for him and his career...and it's funny.
He became incredibly sanctimonious last year after the lance thing broke.

Funny, I didn't hear that been said all through the second half of last year when he wasn't reporting on Sky and he was doing multiple interviews on newspapers and radio stations along with penning SDS.

Interesting it's said now. Interesting indeed.

 

[jens_attacks]

seeing UK postal written in the book warms my heart...oh malhao 2012....i feel it's my baby too

the quote from the wire is pretty cool,made me like walsh a little. so far a good read. funny but good. tomorrow more. now everybody loves raymond time. and chocolate pudding

 

[Digger]

Funny, I didn't hear that been said all through the second half of last year when he wasn't reporting on Sky and he was doing multiple interviews on newspapers and radio stations along with penning SDS.

Interesting it's said now. Interesting indeed.

That's rubbish that it wasn't said. It was said... and just because you didn't hear it doesn't make it so.

If you think he's been as consistent with sky as he was with others, then there's no more to say...

 

[martinvickers]

That's rubbish that it wasn't said. It was said... and just because you didn't hear it doesn't make it so.
.

Sources, Digger?

 

[thehog]

Funny, I didn't hear that been said all through the second half of last year when he wasn't reporting on Sky and he was doing multiple interviews on newspapers and radio stations along with penning SDS.

Interesting it's said now. Interesting indeed.

Speaking of SDS. And previous Walsh books. He's not a good writer. Not in the slightest. SDS was full of errors and even spelling mistakes. I understand why LA Confidential was so poorly written but SDS was a cash in.

The Sky book it's clear there is a ghost writer and sub editor on the publication. It's not Walsh. Sir David II has sold out. Or that Sky/News Corp. legal finessed and signed off on the copy.

Walsh is now in the cool gang. And maybe that was the problem with Armstrong. Lance didn't accept Walsh. And now that he had acceptance he'll subconsciously write what ever has to be written to stay where he is.

 

[Digger]

Speaking of SDS. And previous Walsh books. He's not a good writer. Not in the slightest. SDS was full of errors and even spelling mistakes. I understand why LA Confidential was so poorly written but SDS was a cash in.
The Sky book it's clear there is a ghost writer and sub editor on the publication. It's not Walsh. Sir David II has sold out. Or that Sky/News Corp. legal finessed and signed off on the copy.

Walsh is now in the cool gang. And maybe that was the problem with Armstrong. Lance didn't accept Walsh. And now that he had acceptance he'll subconsciously write what ever has to be written to stay where he is.

Correct...something he admitted to me...that it was rushed out for the xmas market last year.

 

[The Hitch]

lol yeah. Kerrison spends 2010 watching cycling because he knows nothing about it and by 2011 he is the ultimate cycling expert, devising super secret training methods that sound exactly like the ones everyone else has been using for the last decade but provide for significantly superior results.

According to Chris Boardman, Kerrison was even the strategic genius behind Wiggins beating Cancellara in the time trial. He knows more about time trialing after 2 years in a Sky car, than the 4 time world time trial champion

To believe in Sky not only do you have to believe that they have stumbled upon the 2 greatest athletes ever lived in wiggins and Froome (because their numbers if clean are about 3 or 4 levels above what anyone has ever acheived clean) but they also happened to stumble across the most hard working son of a gun on the planet (Brailsford's in the British press is roughly the equivalent of Alexey Stakhanov in Pravda) and they also have found the most intelligent and gifted scientist since Einstein in this Kerrison fella.

In fact I don't know if Einstein even has a case. I remember reading that if you were to show one generation, scientific developments from a few generations into the future, they will be indistinguishable from magic, Kerrison has actually beaten Einstein et all on this because his developments wouldnt only seem like magic to people from the 1800's. They seem like magic to everyone from his time period too.

If you believe Sky are clean you should be writing to the Nobel comitte demanding to know why he hasn't won the science prize yet (lets leave the peace a few years after he gets his US Presidential thank you for winning the war on doping)


And the amazing thing, is 3 of these 4 humans of the century Sky have on their roster, were total nobodies until Murdoch (who's honesty and belief in doing things the right way, no one can possibly doubt) came a calling.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Kerrison began working with the team in 2009 ahead of its launch.

and a link to boot!

http://www.teamsky.com/profile/0,27291,17543_8342940,00.html

Would Sky lie to us? Of course not.

Grazie Bennot. Of course this was a rethorical question for Martinvickers, too bad the newest book of the dragon slayer did not cover this interesting subject. Why didnt Kerrisons training work in 2010? Why was it the best cyclist on earth had these kinda results:

Österreich-Rundfahrt 2010
1 ITA Riccardo Riccò ITA in 27h 35m 30s
2 ESP Sergio Pardilla Bellón ESP op 38s
3 ITA Emanuele Sella ITA op 01m 49s
4 POR Tiago José Machado Pinto POR op 02m 31s
5 RUS Artem Ovechkin RUS op 02m 34s
6 RUS Vladimir Gusev RUS op 03m 48s
7 AUT Stefan Denifl AUT op 04m 17s
8 ITA Morris Possoni ITA op 04m 28s
9 BEL Ben Hermans BEL op 05m 04s
10 NED Pieter Weening NED op 05m 07s
11 UKR Ruslan Pidgornyy UKR op 05m 13s
12 RSA John-Lee Augustyn RSA op 05m 40s
64 Christopher Froome (GBr) Sky Professional Cycling Team 0:32:03

??

That would be a great angle for an investigative journo. In my book at least.

 

[EnacheV]

Why didnt Kerrisons training work in 2010?

even the greatest geniuses needs a little time to deliver

 

[martinvickers]

Grazie Bennot. Of course this was a rethorical question for Martinvickers

Don't lie.

You specifically asked for an answer, "yes or no". IT was NOT therefore a rhetorical question. Rather it was a question asked in ignorance. Very different.

Moreoever, you seem not to have made it to the second paragraph of B's source, which proved my point at your expense. But never mind, because, to be fair, B never read that far either.

 

[Digger]

lol yeah. Kerrison spends 2010 watching cycling because he knows nothing about it and by 2011 he is the ultimate cycling expert, devising super secret training methods that sound exactly like the ones everyone else has been using for the last decade but provide for significantly superior results.

According to Chris Boardman, Kerrison was even the strategic genius behind Wiggins beating Cancellara in the time trial. He knows more about time trialing after 2 years in a Sky car, than the 4 time world time trial champion

To believe in Sky not only do you have to believe that they have stumbled upon the 2 greatest athletes ever lived in wiggins and Froome (because their numbers if clean are about 3 or 4 levels above what anyone has ever acheived clean) but they also happened to stumble across the most hard working son of a gun on the planet (Brailsford's in the British press is roughly the equivalent of Alexey Stakhanov in Pravda) and they also have found the most intelligent and gifted scientist since Einstein in this Kerrison fella.

In fact I don't know if Einstein even has a case. I remember reading that if you were to show one generation, scientific developments from a few generations into the future, they will be indistinguishable from magic, Kerrison has actually beaten Einstein et all on this because his developments wouldnt only seem like magic to people from the 1800's. They seem like magic to everyone from his time period too.

If you believe Sky are clean you should be writing to the Nobel comitte demanding to know why he hasn't won the science prize yet (lets leave the peace a few years after he gets his US Presidential thank you for winning the war on doping)


And the amazing thing, is 3 of these 4 humans of the century Sky have on their roster, were total nobodies until Murdoch (who's honesty and belief in doing things the right way, no one can possibly doubt) came a calling.

As a furtherance of this point, froome is producing watts/kg on certain climbs which are comparable to the top guys of 2004...all whilst clean!!!

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

even the greatest geniuses needs a little time to deliver

You mean stillnox and cafeine need time to adept?

edit: hitch for the killer blow, again, gets boring hitch!

 

[the sceptic]

snipped

The best part is the Walsh/sky fanboys still vortexing away in this thread, pretending like Walsh hasnt become an utter joke.

 

[gooner]

That's rubbish that it wasn't said. It was said... and just because you didn't hear it doesn't make it so.

If you think he's been as consistent with sky as he was with others, then there's no more to say...

Hold on a sec. Your point was about him being sanctimonious after Lance got busted. I never heard that being said around the clinic by regulars around here last year. Disclose who said it. I'd be interested did you call him sanctimonious when you spoke to him.

Because you don't agree with his reporting on Sky, is why you throw this at him now, no other reason and it fits in with the timing after reporting on Sky for a year along with penning the book. This is just the classic under a bus job and forget the past.

 

[thehog]

The best part is the Walsh/sky fanboys still vortexing away in this thread, pretending like Walsh hasnt become an utter joke.

Walsh has become Michael Barry. Inside the Postal Bus part II.

The first vortex reflex was "read the book". Now that we have its still the same piece of crap I'd thought it would be.

More substance in a One Direction song then this waste of paper.

But hey it's Christmas! Kaaaaaaa-Ching! Pass the wine would you Dawg, no problems David how many miles per gallon does your Jag get on the open road? Oh I don't know Dawg, who knows? I'll wait for for the Top Gear episode on the XJ12, LOL David!

 

[The Hitch]

I'd pay money for a book by jens_attacks. Walsh I am not so sure.

Get on it Jens. You can still get it out there in time for the xmas market.


Snippet from the book
"And though the tears they were genuine and my heart was full of sorrow, there was joy there too because Il Killer went out guns blazing. Too often I've seen the greats of the sport turn into little girls when Father time comes. Confess their sins, parade their fat useless bodies in interview rooms, remind us of how sad their lives have become following the years of glory. In his final positive though Killer showed that he understood no one cares what happens after you retire. Though they caught him it was a pyrrhic defeat.
Di Luca lived like Tony Montana did. Live hard die young and take **** from no one. And like with Tony when all those rats were telling him that even crime has rules, that they have to pretend its clean now, crying in his ear "you ain't listening Danilo", urging him to be patient, use microdosing or AICAR or wait till he gets onto a protected team, he took out that vial marked "Epo", pointed it at their twisted hypocritical faces and watched the fear in the eyes as he uttered those words "say hello to my little friend"."

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Get on it Jens. You can still get it out there in time for the xmas market.


Snippet from the book
"And though the tears they were genuine and my heart was full of sorrow, there was joy there too because Il Killer went out guns blazing. Too often I've seen the greats of the sport turn into little girls when Father time comes. Confess their sins, parade their fat useless bodies in interview rooms, remind us of how sad their lives have become following the years of glory. In his final positive though Killer showed that he understood no one cares what happens after you retire. Though they caught him it was a pyrrhic defeat.
Di Luca lived like Tony Montana did. Live hard die young and take **** from no one. And like with Tony when all those rats were telling him that even crime has rules, that they have to pretend its clean now, crying in his ear "you ain't listening Danilo", urging him to be patient, use microdosing or AICAR or wait till he gets onto a protected team, he took out that vial marked "Epo", pointed it at their twisted hypocritical faces and watched the fear in the eyes as he uttered those words "say hello to my little friend"."

Awesome. This book must happen.

With a foreword by Riccardo Riccò.

 

[gooner]

Walsh has become Michael Barry. Inside the Postal Bus part II.

What?

 

[roundabout]

Grazie Bennot. Of course this was a rethorical question for Martinvickers, too bad the newest book of the dragon slayer did not cover this interesting subject. Why didnt Kerrisons training work in 2010? Why was it the best cyclist on earth had these kinda results:

Österreich-Rundfahrt 2010
1 ITA Riccardo Riccò ITA in 27h 35m 30s
2 ESP Sergio Pardilla Bellón ESP op 38s
3 ITA Emanuele Sella ITA op 01m 49s
4 POR Tiago José Machado Pinto POR op 02m 31s
5 RUS Artem Ovechkin RUS op 02m 34s
6 RUS Vladimir Gusev RUS op 03m 48s
7 AUT Stefan Denifl AUT op 04m 17s
8 ITA Morris Possoni ITA op 04m 28s
9 BEL Ben Hermans BEL op 05m 04s
10 NED Pieter Weening NED op 05m 07s
11 UKR Ruslan Pidgornyy UKR op 05m 13s
12 RSA John-Lee Augustyn RSA op 05m 40s
64 Christopher Froome (GBr) Sky Professional Cycling Team 0:32:03

??

That would be a great angle for an investigative journo. In my book at least.

All dopers, all 63 of them.

But seriously it is a rather sad top 12 when I think about it. And that was in 2010.

 

[sniper]

Sadly not.

Sky rewriting their own PR. I bet that was page was written after 2011 Vuelta.

Froome the greatest cyclist of all time?

I bet Kerrison's 2 years observing Froome was why they wanted to sell him

thats the thing.
but mv, gooner, and walsh will take everything sky say at face value.
Sky say x, so x must be true.
Walsh at least gets paid to be blind and ignore cycling,s history, but what,s gooner and mv,s excuse?

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Get on it Jens. You can still get it out there in time for the xmas market.


Snippet from the book
"And though the tears they were genuine and my heart was full of sorrow, there was joy there too because Il Killer went out guns blazing. Too often I've seen the greats of the sport turn into little girls when Father time comes. Confess their sins, parade their fat useless bodies in interview rooms, remind us of how sad their lives have become following the years of glory. In his final positive though Killer showed that he understood no one cares what happens after you retire. Though they caught him it was a pyrrhic defeat.
Di Luca lived like Tony Montana did. Live hard die young and take **** from no one. And like with Tony when all those rats were telling him that even crime has rules, that they have to pretend its clean now, crying in his ear "you ain't listening Danilo", urging him to be patient, use microdosing or AICAR or wait till he gets onto a protected team, he took out that vial marked "Epo", pointed it at their twisted hypocritical faces and watched the fear in the eyes as he uttered those words "say hello to my little friend"."

This site really needs a thanks button.

All dopers, all 63 of them.

But seriously it is a rather sad top 12 when I think about it. And that was in 2010.

Funny part of it is the best cyclist in the pelotoon was a dom for Morris Possoni and his fellow SA friend.

Yeah, if that is not an angle for your book you really are no journo.

 

[the sceptic]

All dopers, all 63 of them.

But seriously it is a rather sad top 12 when I think about it. And that was in 2010.

2010 was a dark era of cycling. Luckily everyone stopped doping in 2011.

 

[Benotti69]

You took issue with a point by providing a link which actually proved it in the end.

Admit it.

Ok I admit it. Walsh is taking the Murdoch shilling and Sky are doping. Happy now?

 

[Benotti69]

Don't lie.

You specifically asked for an answer, "yes or no". IT was NOT therefore a rhetorical question. Rather it was a question asked in ignorance. Very different.

Moreoever, you seem not to have made it to the second paragraph of B's source, which proved my point at your expense. But never mind, because, to be fair, B never read that far either.

What's to read? Walsh wrote a love in about Sky to further their PR BS.

Froome the greatest cyclist of fall time?

Wiggins finished 3+ hours down on TdF winner in 2007 then wins the race in 2012, believable?

All doping. Been here before many a time. No matter how Sky try and dress it up whether in their PR or whether it is Walsh selling it, it all points to doping.