Isaac Del Toro thread

[Salvarani]

Basically what i am trying to say is age is just a number. So now onto tomorrow.

@Unchained

He races like Pogi, now if that is a good thing, or not. Beats me. Ultimately the results will tell.

Why bring up Giulio and say why no one bumping that thread in the middle of this discussion? What did that have to do with anything? That was just very revealing on intentions.

I think it is evident what you are doing and wishing what happens in the next few days. You got your post ready for that, if that actually happens.

That doesnt mean today was a mistake or Del Toro shouldnt have tried to take seconds here. It was a good move.

Now the race goes on.

But this was some next level type of narrative to start, about what was a good performance and stage no matter what happens next. Im surprised, but not surprised.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Why bring up Giulio and say why no one bumping that thread in the middle of this discussion? What did that have do with anything? That was just very revealing on intentions.

I think it is evident what you are doing and wishing what happens in the next few days. You got your post ready for that, if that actually happens.

That doesnt mean today was a mistake or Del Toro shouldnt have tried to take seconds here. It was a good move.

Now the race goes on.

But this was some next level type of narrative. Im surprised, but not surprised.

I just mentioned Giulio was there too, likely riding even smarter. As for the rest i agree, we'll see.

 

[Salvarani]

I just mentioned Giulio was there too, likely riding even smarter. As for the res i agree, we'll see.

No, you said why no one bumping his thread and trying to slight the performance today of Del Toro. That it was somehow a dumb move to try to gain time and hope he will drop later to point to this ride as the reason why.

Then no rider should ever try to race.

 

[James M]

@James M

We'll see.

You know I like you Abi my friend but me and you need to have an intervention soon we cant have you of all ppl blaming cycling is dead which is the go to cope move when ones fav rider get molested by others even if the signs are blinking, we just saw that happen to some Remco fans after Del Toro was done with him.

Lets all remember Roglic and Pog are teammates too theres only love.

 

[CyclistAbi]

@Salvarani

I didn't want to say it directly but OK, maybe you guys are just overreacting. But OK, Isaac can still win the race and back you doing that and prove the doubters wrong. We'll see.

You know I like you Abi my friend but me and you need to have an intervention soon we cant have you of all ppl blaming cycling is dead which is the go to cope move when ones fav rider get molested by others even if the signs are blinking, we just saw that happen to some Remco fans after Del Toro was done with him.

Lets all remember Roglic and Pog are teammates too theres only love.

And Maxim.

 

[Salvarani]

Wait whos saying Del Toro rode stupid today? He couldnt have ridden better. He closed the gap to MvdP after being left behind due to the Jorgenson incident, rode for GC with simon gerrans x2 on the wheel and still almost beat mvdp.

This difficult to understand for some?

Apparently no rider is allowed to race or try to gain an advantage in a race. They may be open to being critised later, if certain things happen.

 

[Salvarani]

@Salvarani

I didn't want to say it directly but OK, maybe you guys are just overreacting. But OK, Isaac can still win the race and back you doing that. and prove the doubters wrong. We'll see.

Who is overreacting?

Im not saying Del Toro will automatically win this race because of today.

I think it is evident what you are doing here though.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Apparently no rider is allowed to race or try to gain an advantage in a race. They may be open to being critised later, if certain things happen.

Wout was constantly blamed for not winning.

Who is overreacting?

Im not saying Del Toro will automatically win this race because of today.

I think it is evident what you are doing here though.

Fair point.

 

[Salvarani]

Wout was constantly blamed for not winning.

Because he didnt win. Stop deflecting though.

Fair point.

Admission. Lets move on.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Apparently no rider is allowed to race or try to gain an advantage in a race. They may be open to being critised later, if certain things happen.

You forgot the number one rule, no rider is allowed to gain time on Roglic or stop him from winning.

 

[CyclistAbi]

You forgot the number one rule, no rider is allowed to gain time on Roglic or stop him from winning.

You can gain time, stop him from winning, good luck.

Because he didnt win.

Neither did del Toro.

 

[Salvarani]

Neither did del Toro.

He almost did, while focused on gaining as much time for the overall. What are you trying to gain here? That hasnt been pointed out already and is obvious.

Are you criticising a rider for just riding his bike? And will use this stage as a reason to later criticise if he ends up not winning the race for some strange reason?

 

[AmRacer]

You can gain time, stop him from winning, good luck.



Neither did del Toro.

But Toro gained time

 

[Salvarani]

But Toro gained time

Apparently that was very dumb. We will wait to criticise if he loses the race in the end and point to this as the reason.

 

[CyclistAbi]

He almost did, while focused on gaining as much time for the overall. What are you trying to gain here? That hasnt been pointed out already and is obvious.

I actually already explained that. That is if del Toro is next Pogi, then he has not much to worry about. If he isn't, then he will likely pay the price for this effort deeper into the race. I feel that that is reasonable assessment but then i guess some didn't like to read that, or something. As i guess obviously he is next Pogi and as long as he races like him all is good.

Well, we'll see.

 

[AlfaLum]

If Giulio and Mathieu were allowed to ride the GC battle would have been between two riders already.

Red Bull still not allowing their best rider to race for himsel on home soil out of respect for Roglic his former glory days.

 

[Salvarani]

I actually already explained that. That is if del Toro is next Pogi, then he has not much to worry about. If he isn't, then he will likely pay the price for this effort deeper into the race. I feel that that is reasonable assessment but then i guess some didn't like to read that, or something. As i guess obviously he is next Pogi and as long as he races like him all is good.

Well, we'll see.

Why are you bringing up Pog?

Any rider who tries to gain time and attacks... is now Pog? Even when they are behind in GC and has to try something? And if they dont win, they will be scrutinized for even trying?

"See that was stupid. He is not Pog". What?

This just very strange things to say that doesnt make much sense, unless you have an agenda to do so which is evident you have by these posts.

 

[CyclistAbi]

If Giulio and Mathieu were allowed to ride the GC battle would have been between two riders already.

Red Bull still not allowing their best rider to race for himsel on home soil out of respect for Roglic his former glory days.

So i am guessing you didn't watch stage 2?

 

[CyclistAbi]

@Salvarani

So he isn't the next Pogi?

 

[AlfaLum]

So i am guessing you didn't watch stage 2?

I watched it, just not hindered by being an extremely subjective Roglic fanboy.

 

[Salvarani]

@Salvarani

So he isn't the next Pogi?

Really whats your issue?

What does this have anything to do with today and the reason for Del Toro to take back time.

Stop deflecting so much.

Is all you want to do is clown Del Toro later if he doesnt win this race, because he tried to race today?

 

[CyclistAbi]

I watched it, just not hindered by being an extremely subjective Roglic fanboy.

Roglič wasn't in the shot.

Really whats your issue?

What does this have anything to do with today and the reason for Del Toro to take back time.

In all honesty, seeing on how some of you reacted, it was about time. As for the race, it's so on.

 

[Salvarani]

Roglič wasn't in the shot.

You have already brought up other riders and deflected so much.

In all honesty, seeing on how some of you reacted, it was about time. As for the race, it's so on.

But nobody said anything about it. You been on one here for all to see.

 

[AlfaLum]

Roglič wasn't in the shot.



In all honesty, seeing on how some of you reacted, it was about time. As for the race, it's so on.

Because guys like Isaac are better

 

[Salvarani]

Because guys like Isaac are better

And Pellizzarri.