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[aruipksni]

Nothing wrong with that.

only if you will be a member in that gang...

 

[CyclistAbi]

only if you will be a member in that gang...

I always like a good bike race it's just such a natural thing to do.

 

[AmRacer]

only if you will be a member in that gang...

Cycling gang

 

[Libertine Seguros]

if the team fold 180 people will lose their income, but you really don't seem to care about it

How much did you care when it was RusVelo?

 

[CyclistAbi]

As for people potentially losing their jobs, it could happen but note that cycling teams are basically mostly about doing business, selling the team is hence one option too. Abramovich for example sold Chelsea when in similar turmoil. And as @Libertine Seguros explained recently we had a case of when a team licence was revoked by the UCI, due to similar concerns, and that was that. One can only imagine the protests involved if that wouldn't have happened.

 

[Leadbelly]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1966381264547754057

View: https://x.com/RenaudB31/status/1966381264547754057


Unsurprisingly Ackers is confirmed to be leaving the team after two rather underwhelming years. He had a pretty good Tour in 2024, but he was poor this year and there's been a fair few crashes along the way.

Jayco is almost certainly where he's off too, but not sure there'll be an upturn in fortunes there.

 

[buddy buddy buddy]

They also recruited and groomed Matthew Riccitello, Marco Frigo, Joe Blackmore, Riley Sheehan and Corbin Strong.
I actually struggle to find many WT / Pro teams with a better track record in developing young riders when you account for their budget and their limited access to the top talents among juniors and u23 riders.

the word groomed make it sound like the ISRA-El organization signed riders with thirty+ flattering then slightly more and more provocative text messages

 

[KZD]

No idea what the future of this team will be but great achievement to have Riccitello finish top5 in a GT and taking the white jersey.

 

[Leadbelly]

No idea what the future of this team will be but great achievement to have Riccitello finish top5 in a GT and taking the white jersey.

Fifth (assuming nothing happens on today's stage) is a pleasant surprise. I wasn't convinced he'd be able to string together a consistent three weeks. I was waiting for a crash/caught behind on echelons/poor placement when an attack happens etc, but he got through it all (with help from his team mates of course).

It'll be interesting to see if he can improve more at Decathlon or whether this is roughly his apogee. Transfer announcement probably coming very soon (tomorrow?) as I think this is his last race of the season.

 

[Oldman]

It would not surprise me at all if ASO are pressuring the UCI on the subject of IPT's future in the present or close future. They have more to lose than any other organiser.

If the sponsors don't cure this themselves they are patently destroying their own cause, IMO. A team organization is not "owned" by the sponsors however deep the financial commitments might be. There is likely an contract out clause for incompatibility with team goals and that of other stakeholders.
If this was a product line, rather than a "state" sponsor it wouldn't continue.

It does expose the other major sponsors fitting the profile, too. UCI needs to take a hard look going forward or risk a version of this at many events based on legitimate and petty grievances of fans. They are operating on public roads....

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

If the sponsors don't cure this themselves they are patently destroying their own cause, IMO. A team organization is not "owned" by the sponsors however deep the financial commitments might be. There is likely an contract out clause for incompatibility with team goals and that of other stakeholders.
If this was a product line, rather than a "state" sponsor it wouldn't continue.

It does expose the other major sponsors fitting the profile, too. UCI needs to take a hard look going forward or risk a version of this at many events based on legitimate and petty grievances of fans. They are operating on public roads....

On most teams, perhaps. But the promotion of the state is at the behest of the team's owner, and the state is, as I understand it, only a very minor sponsor through its department for tourism.

And in a number of other cases, the team is owned by the sponsors: Red Bull, Ineos (via Ratcliffe), UAE, probably others.

 

[Red Rick]

If the sponsors don't cure this themselves they are patently destroying their own cause, IMO. A team organization is not "owned" by the sponsors however deep the financial commitments might be. There is likely an contract out clause for incompatibility with team goals and that of other stakeholders.
If this was a product line, rather than a "state" sponsor it wouldn't continue.

It does expose the other major sponsors fitting the profile, too. UCI needs to take a hard look going forward or risk a version of this at many events based on legitimate and petty grievances of fans. They are operating on public roads....

UCI is in a position of beggars can't be choosers.

Realistically, this issue is most likely to be resolved the other way around, i.e. riders opting not to sign for IPT if it hampers their ability to race their desired schedule or their other financial opportunities.

 

[aruipksni]

 

[Netserk]

I'm so gutted that he didn't get the final podium ceremony. At least he got to celebrate at the start of the stage.

 

[RedheadDane]

I'm so gutted that he didn't get the final podium ceremony. At least he got to celebrate at the start of the stage.

Someone on FB made an absolutely idiotic comment on the "startline selfie" with the jersey wearers, claiming that the jersey was "ugly" and that he should be removed from the picture.

What did Matthew do?

 

[Ilmaestro99]

What did Matthew do?

Sign for a sportswasher team unfortunately

https://twitter.com/x/status/1233415145612861440

View: https://x.com/DeGendtThomas/status/1233415145612861440?t=XVgMOJp7_fZhEFfdoqw2VQ&s=19

 

[Red Rick]

Sign for a sportswasher team unfortunately

https://twitter.com/x/status/1233415145612861440

View: https://x.com/DeGendtThomas/status/1233415145612861440?t=XVgMOJp7_fZhEFfdoqw2VQ&s=19

So did Tadej Pogacar. Nobody giving him *** for it.

 

[RedheadDane]

Sign for a sportswasher team unfortunately

https://twitter.com/x/status/1233415145612861440

View: https://x.com/DeGendtThomas/status/1233415145612861440?t=XVgMOJp7_fZhEFfdoqw2VQ&s=19

De Gendt's tweet isn't really relevant here. Just goes to show how few people know anything about the awesomest sport in the world.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

So did Tadej Pogacar. Nobody giving him *** for it.

Well a few people do, but yes nobody on the same scale.

But my point was not to claim that it is right what happens to ricitello, but rather that you can't really claim ignorance as to the reason why it happens

 

[Ilmaestro99]

De Gendt's tweet isn't really relevant here. Just goes to show how few people know anything about the awesomest sport in the world.

I thought that it was relevant in the sense that as arider, you are representing your sponsors, and you choose to do that

 

[RedheadDane]

I thought that it was relevant in the sense that as arider, you are representing your sponsors, and you choose to do that

I don't know how to break this to you, but I think most riders when they sign a contract do so based on the following criteria (not necessarily in that order):

- Sporting opportunities.
- Money offered.

 

[AmRacer]

I don't know how to break this to you, but I think most riders when they sign a contract do so based on the following criteria (not necessarily in that order):

- Sporting opportunities.
- Money offered.

And it comes with responsibility

 

[Ilmaestro99]

I don't know how to break this to you, but I think most riders when they sign a contract do so based on the following criteria (not necessarily in that order):

- Sporting opportunities.
- Money offered.

Please don't patronise me.

Sporting or financial motivations being the primary reason that a rider signs a contract ( I agree with you on this) does not change the fact that a rider is advertising his sponsors.

I am not trying to say that a rider like ricitello is well versed on the situation with Gaza. I am not saying there was anything political in why he signed a contract with them.

I am just saying that he, as any rider on any team, is riding around with sponsors on his jersey advertising them. He reads what happen in the news and then goes out to ride around with certain things on his jersey. That's his choice, but if the sponsors are controversial, of course the rider will be criticised by people who disagree with the sponsors. It is the riders responsibility to know what and who he is signing for

 

[RedheadDane]

I am just saying that he, as any rider on any team, is riding around with sponsors on his jersey advertising them. He reads what happen in the news and then goes out to ride around with certain things on his jersey. That's his choice.

Nothing justificed (implicit) personal attack.

 

[Oldman]

UCI is in a position of beggars can't be choosers.

Realistically, this issue is most likely to be resolved the other way around, i.e. riders opting not to sign for IPT if it hampers their ability to race their desired schedule or their other financial opportunities.

Yes, and the team operating partners can explain the reality to the group of sponsors. No different than finding out your major supplement company sponsor was not producing a legit product and no fans would support you. The team moves on or ceases to exist commercially whether the UCI intervenes or not. How does a rider hype the other endorsement opportunities with, right or wrong; a logo that is counter to other sponsors? It's counter to their interests and demands rebranding.