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Jalabert positive for EPO in 1998 TDF

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frenchfry said:
The French parliamentary commission into doping has revealed that Jalabert was using EPO in the 1998 TDF. In 2004 the AFLD retroactively tested samples and determined the positive, and the commission pulled out the previously anonymous results as part of their enquiry.

http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme-sur-route/Actualites/Jalabert-positif-a-l-epo-en-1998/381138
i wanna hear more about the cocaine and pot belge parties.

i believe Captaintbag had a blog about it, More Glorious Than Hookers And Blow tumblr

still ****ed i did not get an invite.
 
ChewbaccaD said:
And water is wet.

No doubt. ONCE was a team of professionals, through and through.

I crack up every time I think about Jalabert. Someone might recall either the 97 or 98 LBL, when Zulle and Jalabert (both ONCE) were in a break with Bartoli. Bartoli rides away from the two of them and the narration in my head is something like: "I know what we're on, what the **** is HE on?!"
 
ChewbaccaD said:
And water is wet.

Indeed, this is anything but a surprise.

The good thing is that Jalabert will now have difficulty dancing around the issue as he has been doing for years (since at least 1998). As much as I liked him as a rider and think he is an excellent commentator, his position on doping has always bothered me.

On the evening news on France 2 they had a short telephone interview with Jalabert. He neither denied nor confirmed using EPO, but expressed his surprise that he learned about this through the press. He also said that he was surprised that a positive 1998 sample retested in 2004 is now being revealed in 2013.
 
frenchfry said:
Indeed, this is anything but a surprise.

The good thing is that Jalabert will now have difficulty dancing around the issue as he has been doing for years (since at least 1998). As much as I liked him as a rider and think he is an excellent commentator, his position on doping has always bothered me.

I think his employer should tell him to confess the details or face the ax from his job. I can't imagine having a commentator with such a cloud hanging over him being able to do the job with the required level of credibility.
 
Yeah, I was a big fan of his back in the day but Jalabert's a big hypocrite and his "testimony" at the Senate hearings a couple of months ago were a farce. I really don't think he should be commenting the TDF anymore unless he comes clean and stops spewing his BS.
 
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I hope he will still do the commentary of France 3 . It's so bad without him , he's like the only guy who more or less knows what he's talking about.
 
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webvan said:
Yeah, I was a big fan of his back in the day but Jalabert's a big hypocrite and his "testimony" at the Senate hearings a couple of months ago were a farce. I really don't think he should be commenting the TDF anymore unless he comes clean and stops spewing his BS.
lucky he's not in the US and marion jones. be in Rikers
 
Mar 10, 2009
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If Virenque can work for Eurosport I don't see why Jalabert can't continue commentating. Moreau also works on TV.
 
pugdog said:
If Virenque can work for Eurosport I don't see why Jalabert can't continue commentating. Moreau also works on TV.

Well the obvious difference is that they've fessed up (because they had to) and "presumably" raced "cleaner" after the Festina bust, what with a lifetime ban hanging over their head...on the other hand Jalabert never that that problem. Let's also remember his leading of the strike in the 1998 TDF, calling the journalists "trash mongers", his refusal to participate in races in France in 1999, etc...he really isn't much of an example.

His comments tonight on TV are not really helping his case either, "why bug me with this 10 years after the fact", "how come I have to find out about this in the press"? Err...how is this related to the facts ? SOS if you ask me, if he'd fessed up when talking to the Senate committee that info probably wouldn't have been leaked...
 
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Jaja should stay on as a commentator and then invite all past dopers to discuss this years race un-limited like the Clinic does, would be the most watched channel, I'd pay to listen to those who were in neck deep discuss what they think/know is going on now. Might need a mumble translator for Jaja though :D
 
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It would be big news if AFLD had a non - positive sample of any of the 1998 participants. Or is that too cynical?

Nevertheless, a week before the Tour starts, a 'big' story comes to live. Reaaaaally? Couldnt they have done this at the same time when they did Armstrongs 99 samples?

Paparazzi.
 
May 27, 2012
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Le breton said:
Not below 0°C ;)

Below zero it's called "ice." ;)

Not to mention the fact that at lower depths, because of the pressure, water can be below zero and still be fluid. ;) ;)
 
ChewbaccaD said:
Below zero it's called "ice." ;)

Not to mention the fact that at lower depths, because of the pressure, water can be below zero and still be fluid. ;) ;)

In a lab experiment yes, in nature, no: at the bottom of Lake Baikal the water is at 3-4°C, where the density of liquid water is maximum. :)

But anyway, I'll be watching Jaja trying to wiggle out of this.
 
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Le breton said:
In a lab experiment yes, in nature, no: at the bottom of Lake Baikal the water is at 3-4°C, where the density of liquid water is maximum. :)

But anyway, I'll be watching Jaja trying to wiggle out of this.

Ahh, I see my error, it is saline water that does not freeze at zero...so Jaja's tears will stay wet :)

I will be watching to see Jaja try to get out of this also. The sad thing is that I loved to watch him ride a bike back then.
 
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Fearless Greg Lemond said:
It would be big news if AFLD had a non - positive sample of any of the 1998 participants. Or is that too cynical?

Nevertheless, a week before the Tour starts, a 'big' story comes to live. Reaaaaally? Couldnt they have done this at the same time when they did Armstrongs 99 samples?

Paparazzi.

You can check it by yourself in the usada files :
http://d3epuodzu3wuis.cloudfront.net/Annex+1.pdf

In 1998 (pages 3/4/5) : many EPO positives (pink cells), a few negatives (the green cells, in the last week I guess)

In 1999, much lesser positives, seems as the peloton was quite EPO-clean especially after the first week, except from wonderboy... Most of the riders took EPO before the TdF, but didn't bring anything in France.
 
Anything new.

And he takes advantage of that, others rides who doped would have prefer an era withaut doping. Jalabert would be an EBH, maybe a Sagan, but not a Tour contender or a ITT World champion.

His career is better than Valverde, and he wasnt so talented IMO.

Anyway, panache, and he was a great cyclist ;)

And anyway to be at ONCE wasnt only doping, he took advantage of the ONCE innovations, as riders do now at SKY
 
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It took 15 years or so but they finally got him! That's some solid anti-doping group the UCI has going for it :D

If anything releasing Jalabert's positive now is actually worse for cycling's image. :cool:
 
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ChewbaccaD said:
And water is wet.

My thoughts were similar....

Old news. Will he get sanctioned? Of course not, but at least it is official and he is now lumped into the Armstrong corner.

Wonder what Jaja did to upset someone?