Jasper Philipsen thread

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Sorry if this has been asked already, but the pronunciation of his last name by some commentators sounds like "Phillip-suh" rather than "Phillip-sun". Do any native Flemish/Dutch speakers have a definitive answer on which is correct? Thanks!
 
In all kinds of racing there are crashes when you push passed the boundary.. which you don't know you are crossing until you do and crash. Formula 1,NASCAR, Indy,Moto GP and like it or not, crashing is part of the fan experience. My own personal experience, people who don't have much of an imagination freak out at bike racing crashes.
If you see that you are riding at the human limits, in a group, wearing the equivalent of zero protection, with cycling shoes being head and shoulders the single most protective device worn to protect yourself and in your head you have to ask and answer " what can go wrong? "
When the best TDF sprinter in history is on the deck with a snapped clavicle and associated road rash.. or when the best racer in the world falls off his bike and busts his wrist..only people with little imagination don't see some level of crashing crazy chaos for us pedaling peasants
If a slight lane change amongst professionals is the worst thing that happens to you and you don't consider yourself lucky.. again expand your imagination
 
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In all kinds of racing there are crashes when you push passed the boundary.. which you don't know you are crossing until you do and crash. Formula 1,NASCAR, Indy,Moto GP and like it or not, crashing is part of the fan experience. My own personal experience, people who don't have much of an imagination freak out at bike racing crashes.
If you see that you are riding at the human limits, in a group, wearing the equivalent of zero protection, with cycling shoes being head and shoulders the single most protective device worn to protect yourself and in your head you have to ask and answer " what can go wrong? "
When the best TDF sprinter in history is on the deck with a snapped clavicle and associated road rash.. or when the best racer in the world falls off his bike and busts his wrist..only people with little imagination don't see some level of crashing crazy chaos for us pedaling peasants
If a slight lane change amongst professionals is the worst thing that happens to you and you don't consider yourself lucky.. again expand your imagination
I agree to your first sentence but from there on out I'm like "wtf did I just read?" I honestly don't understand what you're trying to say here. People that don't enjoy watching crashes have no imagination?

only people with little imagination don't see some level of crashing crazy chaos for us pedaling peasants
I.. what? I mean I guess those are English words arranged in a certain order, but other than that, you lost me.

Aside from that, Philipsen surely edged close to the boundary on a lot of sprints this Tour, but I also think he never really overstepped them. I can understand others might have a different opinion. Mass sprints are like hands in football in that regard: unclear rules, or at least very open to interpretation, and therefor they spark many debates where often no one is actually right or wrong.
 
I agree to your first sentence but from there on out I'm like "wtf did I just read?" I honestly don't understand what you're trying to say here. People that don't enjoy watching crashes have no imagination?


I.. what? I mean I guess those are English words arranged in a certain order, but other than that, you lost me.

Aside from that, Philipsen surely edged close to the boundary on a lot of sprints this Tour, but I also think he never really overstepped them. I can understand others might have a different opinion. Mass sprints are like hands in football in that regard: unclear rules, or at least very open to interpretation, and therefor they spark many debates where often no one is actually right or wrong.
In bike racing you are supposed to conclude that the road and your body know you are falling off of a motorcycle at @40mph..therefore wear a real helmet, leathers,gloves and protective, supportive, boots,and often spine protection. On bicycles, the pavement, rocks,trees, other vehicles all just know that things should feel different on a bicycle vs motorcycle. So when you take a gravel nap falling off a bicycle the magic of lycra protect you from injury the equivalent of full leathers.. and that if your head comes in contact with someone or something.. Giro is the specific activity equivalent of my Schubert or Shoei...don't know how the pavement or my skull can detect the difference in the scenario.. but the cycling industry says that everything is different. There have been a number of high profile cycling deaths and almost nothing said about the state of the safety equipment, safety standards, instead bad drivers and bad luck.
Challenge you to compare safety gear for low level go cart or mini cycle racing.. Both have speeds in the @40-45mph range. Just on a long table... what does bicycle racing consider a minimum helmet.. Min jersey and pants, both activities are mass start on pavement, often w bicycle racing on roadways that are open to vehicle and pedestrian traffic.. Tour d France would not take place if it required a closed course. What is a constant major problem in bike racing? Crashing into fans.. Can you imagine if that was an issue in football, cricket, F1,GP1, NBA, NFL..if one of there governing bodies made that statement.. Messi missed the goal.. Broke his leg because a fan waiving a flag dressed in a devil suit jumped in front of him. Bicycle racing is an outcast.. I think in stage 4 or 5 this year, some running fans had colored flares, they lit them on fire and were running next to the racers..UCI memos will be released decades from now and I am guessing that they will show how lucky they feel every second of every day, of every race that there are not more, and more serious injuries given their lack of doing anything.
Have we really come that far since wearing leather hair nets?
View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yN4f77rMPTY&pp=ygURU3RldmUgYmF1ZXIgQWJkdWo%3D
 
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So what are you trying to say? Abdouzhaparov was insane? Yes he was. We all know that.

Do cycling fans cause a lot of crashes? Well.. I wouldn't say a lot, but media tends to jump all over them (rightfully so, those stupid f*s should be exposed). But it's still the cyclists themselves that cause most crashes. Should an 'opi and omi'-fan receive corporal punishment for what the damage they afflict? I say yes. French judges so far ignored my pleas to do just that unfortunately.
Do cyclists need more protective gear? Meh. With helmets, the most important part is protected already. Draping them in full armor would surely look cool, but it wouldn't prevent any further deaths imo. (The weight might make for new records on descents. Imagine Mohoric not only dropping is seatpost, but also the visor of his iron helmet.)

More seriously: I still don't really get what you're trying to say. But just look back at the fatalities in cycling the past two decades and do your own research on what caused them. It wasn't fans. And although I believe helmets have prevented a lot, they're not gonna keep you 100% safe either. But that's life: nothing will. I'm just happy broadcasting has become a bit more sensitive about showing stuff, because those Weylandt images from 2011 are still imprinted in my head, and I really wish they weren't.

Cycling is an inherently dangerous sport. Of course it is ridiculous that helmets onlyle became mandatory in the late 90's, but I'm glad they're here. Aside from that? Pro cyclists know what they're getting into. That's why I have a huge respect for em. Let us layman just cheer. And let the pro's decide for themselves how far they're willing to go.