Jonas Vingegaard: Something is Rotten

[Netserk]

What have you corrected that was false? The article literally says they used the now banned practice and posted pictures of the athletes. How was I supposed to know that the subtitle to the photo saying that this was "the legal" inhalation practice shown here... It was missed non-intentionally by me, but that's also obviously what they would say now isn't it??

The article is quite clear for those who can read it, and it doesn't say what you claimed it did.

The study was done in the summer of 2023, the picture of Staune-Mittet is from 2022.

 

[Pozzovivo]

I don't agree with many of your allegations, @Netserk But:

I have edited the original post to include the caption of the picture. I didn't intend to misrepresent anything, I literally caught on to the headline, translated the article to english, but forgot to read underneath the picture caption (actually that part was not auto-translated for me). Ok?

 

[Berniece]

The picture doesn't show and doesn't claim to show that.

Aren’t there pictures of both methods so we can just compare?

 

[Rob5091]

Aren’t there pictures of both methods so we can just compare?

Photos of guys doping?!

 

[Berniece]

Photos of guys doping?!

No, just of both methods being used in general research environments. Not necessarily athletes

 

[Netserk]

No, just of both methods being used in general research environments. Not necessarily athletes

The difference is amount of CO and frequency of the treatments. A single treatment does not stress the body enough to provoke a physiological response. Over a period of three weeks, the difference between the two adds up to a factor of 50-100 times the amount of CO inhaled.

 

[Berniece]

The difference is amount of CO and frequency of the treatments. A single treatment does not stress the body enough to provoke a physiological response. Over a period of three weeks, the difference between the two adds up to a factor of 50-100 times the amount of CO inhaled.

So what they are doing is actually the same, and thus the picture would be the same.

 

[Netserk]

So what they are doing is actually the same, and thus the picture would be the same.

If I lay my hand on your chin and take a picture of it, is it a picture of me slapping you?

 

[Berniece]

If I lay my hand on your chin and take a picture of it, is it a picture of me slapping you?

I’m not sure what you are saying. My point was that I understand what you said, and thank you for clarifying.

 

[fenns]

Vingegaard sounds in a bad way and the team don't know when he'll race next.

Another miraculous return for the Tour?

 

[Ripper]

Jisma seem to have a lot of crazy accidents and/or illnesses. How many supermen are they currently down? The Fish Doctor, Dylan Van Man, Christophe Le-Always-Sick

Something a bit smelly goin' on

 

[pelotonIQ]

Vingegaard sounds in a bad way and the team don't know when he'll race next.

Another miraculous return for the Tour?

In the beginning Visma said that he had injured his wrist, now they've come out and said that he also suffered a concussion. He usually doesn't race much early in the season as he tries to avoid injuries and be in the best shape for TdF. He is also doing the Vuelta.

 

[Rackham]

So why are people in the main forum questioning whether Vingegaard will be levelled up this summer. Everyone has memory loss or something.

If Plugge and Visma are boasting about Vinge, it means they've cooked something huge. I bet they'll conceal his level in the Dauphiné as well. They're like that.

But yeah, I don't want to read comments like "how is this performance possible?! Je suis outraged!" in July. No one gets to play the outrage card anymore, not in this cycling. When LPdBF 2020 became commonplace, Combloux 2023 then became commonplace... and that resulted in the Plateau de Beille 2024 becoming the new norm.

Arms race.

 

[noob]

So why are people in the main forum questioning whether Vingegaard will be levelled up this summer. Everyone has memory loss or something.

If Plugge and Visma are boasting about Vinge, it means they've cooked something huge. I bet they'll conceal his level in the Dauphiné as well. They're like that.

But yeah, I don't want to read comments like "how is this performance possible?! Je suis outraged!" in July. No one gets to play the outrage card anymore, not in this cycling. When LPdBF 2020 became commonplace, Combloux 2023 then became commonplace... and that resulted in the Plateau de Beille 2024 becoming the new norm.

Arms race.

Partly Pog fans? Partly people not wanting to get their hopes up too high if another TdF is just a boring race without competition?

It's definitely an arms race.

 

[Froome]

Obviously Visma prepared something big for Vingegaard, otherwise Plugge wouldn't talk like that.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Preparing the foundations to blunt the mass doping accusations that are about to follow, if they go faster than last time The Gendarmerie gotta be stepping in.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

If it gets worse than combloux ITT or plateau de beille then we might as well put them all on mopeds

 

[Pantani Attacks]

Guess who's back, back again. Fish oil's back, tell a friend.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

3 more weeks with the kids after daupgine to power up on love for the tour. Its gonna be a bloodbath

 

[Tim Cahill]

UAE team recent blood extraction, Vingegaard's had months to do his.

 

[Froome]

Something really out of proportions is coming. The signs are there.

 

[Rou]

Something really out of proportions is coming. The signs are there.

I saw him do the wiggle with his legs at the start of the TT and I knew it was game over for Pog.

 

[fenns]

When I saw Vingy closing on Pogi at the stage 1 finish line I knew we were witnessing a fresh mutation

 

[FroomeWagon]

I, for one, am glad to see Vingegaard results today. It was kind of boring with only Pogacar riding on "the very best stuff." Hopefully it makes for a competitive and exciting July.