Jonas Vingegaard: Something is Rotten

[zlev11]

Like I wrote in the race thread, the sausage is made the way the sausage is made...and they're all eating sausage, so this was a contest of sausage eaters. Deal with it.

let's give Lance his Tours back then

 

[BullsFan22]

This is incredible. 1:38 over 22.5km?? Even if it was a TT of old, 52.5 km or longer, I’d call it suspicious. This is far beyond any realm of even regular doping. I can’t believe that Pogačar, who is likely doping, is that far behind.

 

[fbjim]

Rasmussen innocent!!!

 

[ontheroad]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1681330600614019072

View: https://twitter.com/MRasmussen1974/status/1681330600614019072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1681330600614019072%7Ctwgr%5Ec421faad300ee973df65471bd0a1b48b2251b42e%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.cyclingnews.com%2Fthreads%2Fjonas-vingegaard-rasmussen-the-new-alpha-mutant.38012%2Fpage-42

 

[saganftw]

its always funny to read quotes from former dopers, i bet watching this doesnt feel good for them because we just assume...

they know

 

[proffate]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1681334946672025600

View: https://twitter.com/festinaboy/status/1681334946672025600
this.nobody can say it better than vayer.
ps:wanna bet that tomorrow after the backclash he will simulate to have a bad day? but not losing too much time.

wow, if only Calmejane had two left legs he would be a household name

 

[ashhutch1997]

I think you misunderstood me here, I'm familiar with the history of cycling, it's just interests me how the performances compare, especially to the EPO era.

It makes the EPO era look clean

 

[Didinho]

I’ve never posted in the clinic before but I think it’s time.

Trying to keep up with the comments from today but there’s always a new page when I’m done. Can this even be done without some kind of motor?

I’m mad. Considering selling all my bikes.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Professor X and Magneto now TTing towards France to compete for Vingo's services.

 

[DrSahl]

Hm, disagree in the sense that Pogacar's 2020 winning ITT was nowhere close to this in terms of gap to the rest. In fact, there you actually could make the point that Roglic really visibly cracked while today Pogacar in himself had a crazy gap to the rest.

It was an overall statement, not just a singuar ITT
They are obviously both not clean.. hence my post.

 

[Red Rick]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1681334946672025600

View: https://twitter.com/festinaboy/status/1681334946672025600
this.nobody can say it better than vayer.
ps:wanna bet that tomorrow after the backclash he will simulate to have a bad day? but not losing too much time.

Is French uniquely suited to accuse peopel of doping?

Average W calculation would be nice, but normalized power is so ***.

 

[Danskebjerge]

Like I wrote in the race thread, the sausage is made the way the sausage is made...and they're all eating sausage, so this was a contest of sausage eaters. Deal with it.

Yeah, but I still think the sausage you can buy at a Jumbo supermarket is made of stuff you won't find in a sausage bought at Lidl.

 

[ashhutch1997]

I’ve never posted in the clinic before but I think it’s time.

Trying to keep up with the comments from today but there’s always a new page if I’m done.

I’m mad. Considering selling all my bikes.

Don't let these mutants spoil your love of riding a bike

 

[perico]

I might fail the 50% hct test from watching todays stage.

 

[Almeisan]

The Russians were doping in athletics for years. They weren't crushing everyone. Doping doesn't explain this. Whatever is happening, it is much more significant than doping.

 

[DrSahl]

I’ve never posted in the clinic before but I think it’s time.

Trying to keep up with the comments from today but there’s always a new page if I’m done.

I’m mad. Considering selling all my bikes.

You should not let entertainment (as this is) draw you away from something you love.
We have to accept that professional sports today is dirty (not just cycling) in terms of doping, corruption and so forth.

 

[ashhutch1997]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1681330600614019072

View: https://twitter.com/MRasmussen1974/status/1681330600614019072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1681330600614019072%7Ctwgr%5Ec421faad300ee973df65471bd0a1b48b2251b42e%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.cyclingnews.com%2Fthreads%2Fjonas-vingegaard-rasmussen-the-new-alpha-mutant.38012%2Fpage-42

We should start a petition to give the chicken his 2007 title that got given to the super clean Contador

 

[fbjim]

Rasmussen never doped he was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. UNFAIRLY targeted for being on vacation!!!

 

[fbjim]

I might fail the 50% hct test from watching todays stage.

If your kid watched this stage he'd start growing facial hair the next week

 

[topt]

I'm surprised too I'm having such a good time reading the comments from Pogacar fans.

Pogacar insisted on a bike switch for comfort reasons.

When it comes to knowing physics I back myself against Pogacar.

and I ll back myself knowing why the bike was changed, test drive has shown they should change the bike.

 

[hrotha]

That doesnt really tell you anything since the ITT's historically has been way longer, it is only recently they have become shorter and shorter. So how could it really be precedented? Those kind of gaps have happened several times on the older longer ITT's. You cant say with certainty the gaps would be smaller had the ITT's been shorter.

You do know there's other races beside the TdF that historically often had shorter ITTs, right
And you do know that yes absolutely of course longer ITTs lead to greater gaps, how can you even question this, are you having a laugh mate, are you pulling our legs, are you having one massive giraffe

 

[DrSahl]

The Russians were doping in athletics for years. They weren't crushing everyone. Doping doesn't explain this. Whatever is happening, it is much more significant than doping.

I am sure some will come and tell us all about ACTN3/R577X
This is also why I was so good at sports for sure..

 

[Scarponi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1681330600614019072

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I wasn’t around back then, how good were the 2nd ITT riders to Indurain? Like really good and he was just insanity or was he really good on top of them being Pantani spec

 

[proffate]

Is French uniquely suited to accuse peopel of doping?

Average W calculation would be nice, but normalized power is so ***.

The average power is in the graphic, it's 5.42 for Calmejane.

Normalized definitely makes more sense to talk about in this scenario in terms of measuring what should be humanly possible.

 

[ashhutch1997]

Honestly, they might as well give Lance Armstrong his Tours back