Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard: The Butterfly Effect

[Extinction]

I'm not saying that it is but it could also be the case of appear weak when you are strong.

And, I think, this is why you keep 'em guessing by being enigmatic. Saying it's 50/50 he goes is open to more interpretation than he goes or doesn't (in which case at least one thing is for sure).

 

[YavorD]

And, I think, this is why you keep 'em guessing by being enigmatic. Saying it's 50/50 he goes is open to more interpretation than he goes or doesn't (in which case at least one thing is for sure).

I don't think you keep them guessing that way, you invite them to attack early. Which, to be honest, is a good plan if they think/know that Jonas will start hot but may fade towards week 3 (contrary to what they said).

 

[Extinction]

I don't think you keep them guessing that way, you invite them to attack early. Which, to be honest, is a good plan if they think/know that Jonas will start hot but may fade towards week 3 (contrary to what they said).

Well, given his incident, they were going to attack early and hard anyway. It's not as if he had a smooth go, crushed the Dauphine, and everybody is bracing for thermo-nuclear form. No, they expect him to be vulnerable, were he to show up. So it's best I think to be the least forthcoming with anything regarding him right now.

 

[YavorD]

Well, given his incident, they were going to attack early and hard anyway. It's not as if he had a smooth go, crushed the Dauphine, and everybody is bracing for thermo-nuclear form. No, they expect him to be vulnerable, were he to show up. So it's best I think to be the least forethcoming with anything regarding him right now.

Well, I guess we'll know more in just over 2 weeks.

 

[Didinho]

He can’t hold the others riding a bike and celebrating a Tour victory, but apparently also not on foot.
Or he’s still not healed properly.

 

[Netserk]

I hadn't noticed before that Tratnik has the perfect size to swap bike with Vingegaard.

 

[Didinho]

I hadn't noticed before that Tratnik has the perfect size to swap bike with Vingegaard.

They don’t need Tratnik. They got it covered.

 

[Earns1985]

So when will the final decicion be taken and communicated, if Vingegaard will ride the tour?

Just 12 days left now...

 

[Froome]

So when will the final decicion be taken and communicated, if Vingegaard will ride the tour?

Just 12 days left now...

This week.

Vingegaard, Kuss, Jorgenson, Kelderman, Van aert, Benoot, Laporte, Tratnik.

They will announce this team for the Tour, according to some newspapers.

 

[Peyroteo94]

We will know next sunday but I think he will race, specially after knowing he won't race the Vuelta. They need Jonas to save their season so I think they are rushing him and hoping for the best.

 

[shadowrider]

This week.

Vingegaard, Kuss, Jorgenson, Kelderman, Van aert, Benoot, Laporte, Tratnik.

They will announce this team for the Tour, according to some newspapers.

Indeed. The decision has already been made a few days ago. The 8 riders mentioned are the participants to the Tour. The only reason VLAB don't communicate is for strategic reasons. But that makes no sense, because all competing teams have known the VLAB team for days. Of course, Kelderman could have crashed hard again during the Tour of Suisse. But he didn't (at least not hard). So, if they want to remain credible, they should "officially" announce the team today or tomorrow.

 

[dazaau]

Man if he shows up and wastes pogi again the forum will melt down.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Man if he shows up and wastes pogi again the forum will melt down.

Only if both then beaten by Rogla.

 

[JimPanzen]

We will know next sunday but I think he will race, specially after knowing he won't race the Vuelta. They need Jonas to save their season so I think they are rushing him and hoping for the best.

I think he hasa status to also have a word in this decision. So "rushing him" without him being ok with it is not a real thing.

 

[tobydawq]

I think he hasa status to also have a word in this decision. So "rushing him" without him being ok with it is not a real thing.

Yes, he seems like a very strong-willed person with a cut-through attitude.

 

[Miha81]

So I guess we have a battle royal at our hands. These 11 days will be long painfull waiting game

 

[awavey]

Well he's at there pre TDF training camp so I think he'll start, ready or not, it's not like he's taking a spot away from another rider who could do any better

 

[CyclistAbi]

Well he's at there pre TDF training camp so I think he'll start, ready or not, it's not like he's taking a spot away from another rider who could do any better

Roglič?

 

[Cassirer]

Roglič?

Is on Bora since this season and will most likely be selected for their tour team!

 

[CyclistAbi]

Is on Bora since this season and will most likely be selected for their tour team!

All good then.

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

Watched this morning Thijs' video shorts on his Strava uploads, recordings while group training, shots behind Jonas and some of the other team members.

Seems everyone around Jonas is on a relax retreat at near resting HR's and the only one that seems with full focus and looks like he struggles is Jonas.

Of course these are just snapshot short vids.
Just striking that the pattern seems completely consistent.....well..

 

[Froome]

Watched this morning Thijs' video shorts on his Strava uploads, recordings while group training, shots behind Jonas and some of the other team members.

Seems everyone around Jonas is on a relax retreat at near resting HR's and the only one that seems with full focus and looks like he struggles is Jonas.

Of course these are just snapshot short vids.
Just striking that the pattern seems completely consistent.....well..

On that case, it would be unthinkable for him to go to the Tour.

I saw those videos yesterday, Vingegaard always looks like he is struggling because of his style in the bike, especially when he does that weird thing with legs like he did in the TT of last year's Tour de France.

We can see here a similar video, where it looks like he is struggling, but that's just his style on the bike.

View: https://youtu.be/2CluddZjXrg?si=Tph3fWTIcpes4fn2

 

[shadowrider]

On that case, it would be unthinkable for him to go to the Tour.

I saw those videos yesterday, Vingegaard always looks like he is struggling because of his style in the bike, especially when he does that weird thing with legs like he did in the TT of last year's Tour de France.

We can see here a similar video, where it looks like he is struggling, but that's just his style on the bike.

View: https://youtu.be/2CluddZjXrg?si=Tph3fWTIcpes4fn2

I think you are right. It's his ridingstyle. But I still don't think it runs smoothly at all. That's not possible after what happened. But he still has more than a week to get the right pedal stroke. He will be very close (not quite) to his top form in ten days.

 

[Froome]

I think you are right. It's his ridingstyle. But I still don't think it runs smoothly at all. That's not possible after what happened. But he still has more than a week to get the right pedal stroke. He will be very close (not quite) to his top form in ten days.

Is that a feeling you have, or some inside information?

 

[Oldermanish]

Indeed. The decision has already been made a few days ago. The 8 riders mentioned are the participants to the Tour. The only reason VLAB don't communicate is for strategic reasons. But that makes no sense, because all competing teams have known the VLAB team for days. Of course, Kelderman could have crashed hard again during the Tour of Suisse. But he didn't (at least not hard). So, if they want to remain credible, they should "officially" announce the team today or tomorrow.

You do realize that, if he's declared a non-starter now that Pogacar as last year's #2 at the Tour that UAE would move up to the #1 team. Along with that all of the positioning perks in the caravan and busses would change.
If I'm wrong; someone correct me.
There's no "surprise" other than if Jonas does roll in it will be to train. UAE is pretty much a lock on team depth.