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- Aug 3, 2015
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Their alternative and decent: Kuss and Jorgensen for GC and Wout as a stage hunter.
But Jonas obviously triumphs that easily if he's just 90% at the start
What exactly is said in the video and translated into English:
Ekstrabladet has been in Glyngøre here behind us today to see if we could have a chat with Jonas Vingegaard. Because he is back on his training bike after his terrible crash in the Basque Country around five weeks ago. We spoke to Jonas Vingegaard today.
He does not want to take part in an interview, and of course we respect that. He was out on his bike for about three hours. How much of it he trained intensively, we do not know.
The team says he trains somewhere between half an hour and a full hour. It may be that he has driven a little further. The fact is, though, he looked pretty good on his bike.
He sat very easily and did not look affected by all his injuries. And he drove at a, let's call it, pretty good speed too, both in and out of town. Good news for all of us hoping to see him at the Tour de France this summer.
- Jul 10, 2014
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Everyone is like can he get back to his best? But hear this, what if he comes back even stronger!
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwTsUfGeshY
- May 19, 2012
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dude can't even breathe properly yet ffs... he needs to heal and get ready for Vuelta
- May 27, 2019
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I was merely reacting to a new information - the fact that he rides outdoors, seemingly for some kind of training purposes along with the team being hopeful he will ride the tour. I of course hope so too, because I think it would make for a better race, but if he will clearly not be ready to be competitive in any sense, then of course I hope he and the team decide not to do it.
But instead of arguing with me being happy with his seemingly rapid recovery, you should be arguing with him and the team, why the duck is he ridding his bike outdoors (and being publicized at that too) when he can't even breathe properly yet if you indeed think this is the case.
(If you think it's a case of workers abuse for the sake of sponsor exposure, because they think they will not get the exposure at the tour... I think it might be stretching it a bit, but I will nonetheless unite with you for the glorious revolution!)
- Aug 13, 2011
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Let me preface this by saying I don’t think he’ll be at the turn because he won’t show up if he doesn’t think he can win. It can’t be understated how gruesome his injuries were and how painful it must be to breathe while fatigued. That’s going to hamper any training and could still be present by the time Tour comes around. He’s in amazing physical shape and condition but it’s still a long, hard recovery.
A top 10 would be great, and if he podiums or even wins I would say it’d be arguably his best Grand Tour performance. Nor do I think coming in at base shape or 70%(or whatever it was) is a pathway to victory. You can’t use past results to point in his favor for this because they’re not the same circumstances. First off, Roglic probably beats him at the Vuelta if they’re racing against each other from the start and that was an average Vingegaard. It might not be by much but he could have gained more time on the stages Vingegaard was weak in. Roglic also showed to be in great shape by the end of the Vuelta and had that amazing Giro TT, that’s a lot to bank on being better. Pogacar and Evenepoel aren’t going to be slouches either and Pog has a strong team. Pogacar’s big question mark would be how he recovers but his team knows and planned all year for a serious double attempt. And while there’s some that don’t believe Mou, I think Pogacar has looked pretty improved from last year and they already started techniques to try and keep him cool. Second, just because Vingegaard was the strongest in 2022 and 2023 at the third week doesn’t mean it’ll continue. There’s no way Visma ride anything like the last two years if Vingegaard isn’t 100%, otherwise he’s going to be dropped by it and the lung issues will show themselves. That means Pog, Roglic, Evenepoel and others are going to have more energy and won’t be as worn down. If he’s at 70% in the first two weeks he’s going to lose too much time to overcome.
I think his best bet is a nice relaxing race, but that’s a lot to ask for.
A top 10 would be great, and if he podiums or even wins I would say it’d be arguably his best Grand Tour performance. Nor do I think coming in at base shape or 70%(or whatever it was) is a pathway to victory. You can’t use past results to point in his favor for this because they’re not the same circumstances. First off, Roglic probably beats him at the Vuelta if they’re racing against each other from the start and that was an average Vingegaard. It might not be by much but he could have gained more time on the stages Vingegaard was weak in. Roglic also showed to be in great shape by the end of the Vuelta and had that amazing Giro TT, that’s a lot to bank on being better. Pogacar and Evenepoel aren’t going to be slouches either and Pog has a strong team. Pogacar’s big question mark would be how he recovers but his team knows and planned all year for a serious double attempt. And while there’s some that don’t believe Mou, I think Pogacar has looked pretty improved from last year and they already started techniques to try and keep him cool. Second, just because Vingegaard was the strongest in 2022 and 2023 at the third week doesn’t mean it’ll continue. There’s no way Visma ride anything like the last two years if Vingegaard isn’t 100%, otherwise he’s going to be dropped by it and the lung issues will show themselves. That means Pog, Roglic, Evenepoel and others are going to have more energy and won’t be as worn down. If he’s at 70% in the first two weeks he’s going to lose too much time to overcome.
I think his best bet is a nice relaxing race, but that’s a lot to ask for.
- May 7, 2024
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Jonas will likely be at the tour. He will likely climb even outclimb his competitors. But what worries me is how he will race in the group or in the descents. It's easy when you are alone and the road is wide, but in a group just a slight bump and you're down. And the way the tour is with fans all over the roads it can be very stressful. Plus add to the fact that he's the defending champion there will be a big burden on his shoulders. I wouldn't be surprised to see him say 1-2 minutes ahead in the final weak.
- Feb 20, 2012
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To me it just seems like they're gonna try to get him in a good but not perfect shape and just see what happens. Vingegaard is obviously motivated. If he's not good enough then there's La Vuelta. And I only think they'll take him out if he gets worse during the race.
- Jan 29, 2021
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I don't believe they are taking risks with him. If he goes to the Tour that's because they know he can be there healthy and in good shape.
He is not in sierra nevada at the moment training in altitude, so they are taking it easy with him.
- Mar 20, 2022
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- Jan 29, 2021
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The Tour will be decided in the last week, it's very backloaded. If he starts the Tour in good shape, and he is able to improve in the first 2 weeks and peak in the last week, then it could even be very beneficial for him.
- Aug 9, 2021
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Tactically analysis might not be the forte of the cycling Dane, but I totally agree it's better to focus on 2025.
With that said nothing about these last seasons makes me believe it's impossible to even win this year. It's just unneccessarily stupid and risky lol.
- Mar 20, 2022
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This dude is extraordinary, he recovers like nobody and that is the reason why he is a two time Tour de France winner. If someone is able to get this setback and comeback in a record time,that man is the fisherman! I still don't see him winning the Tour but Vuelta is very possible.
- Jan 29, 2021
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Træner løfter sløret: Sådan er Vingegaards vej tilbage
Tim Heemskerk følger Jonas Vingegaards vej tilbage mod topformen fra tætteste hold. Her giver han et indblik i processen
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@Mlarsen it would be interesting to see what the coach of Vingegaard said in this article.
I'm not paying for access to that paper, but the first part is just more of the same "it's too early to tell"
Træner løfter sløret: Sådan er Vingegaards vej tilbage
Tim Heemskerk følger Jonas Vingegaards vej tilbage mod topformen fra tætteste hold. Her giver han et indblik i processen
@Mlarsen it would be interesting to see what the coach of Vingegaard said in this article.
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- May 23, 2022
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You're confusing recovery from the aerobic and anaerobic efforts with recovery from sustained physical damages. Can he recover from cancer too?
- Jan 8, 2020
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News from the 10th. of may about JV:
sport-tv2-dk.translate.goog
- Ingen forbedrer sig så hurtigt som Vingegaard, siger træner
Der venter Jonas Vingegaard nogle uger med basistræning, fortæller hans træner Tim Heemskerk.
sport-tv2-dk.translate.goog
Literally just drove past Jonas yesterday while he was on a training ride alone, he still looks in pretty damn good shape! He will win again this year.
I also sometimes drive past him in a car on the island of Mors when he is training in Denmark, but have not seen him yet in connection with his rehabilitation. Glad to hear he's doing well
- Jul 27, 2023
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To be able to do that, you need a very solid base. Not sure, if he can manage to get a very solid base until end of June, given the circumstances. Exactely that was Pogi's problem last year (at least one of his problems).
- Feb 20, 2012
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Running into pro riders on the road makes me realise cycling is the sport that's closest to Pokémon Go that you can just mind your own business but run into legendaries if you're in the right location
- May 18, 2023
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Exactly. I'm pretty sure Vingegaard will be in a good shape at the start of the Tour (if participating). BUT.... As Evenepoel was in a good shape at the start of the Giro 21, as Pogacar was in a good shape at the start of the Tour 23. Both without the perfect basis. Then a relapse always follows. The same will happen with Vingegaard.
- May 29, 2019
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So 50 days till the start and currently Jonas on some light training. Nah, that is too little time to get into Tour winning shape. Unless the plan is to get in reasonable shape and then to try to be there and see on how it goes. That is to try to leverage from other favourites potentiality having some issues. We'll see.
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