Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Love in Iberia

[Luthor]

Don't understand this comment, every giro winner from 2013 onwards has done tirreno, with the exception of pogacar

And neither of them have won Tour and barely tried to do the double like Froome-Dumo.

I don't think that Froome and Dumoulin would suddenly win the Tour had they done Catalunya instead of TA (as Roglic/Pog).
No, I don't think he'll do the Giro but I don't think it's would be a problem for the Tour if he does Camino and TA/PN before the Giro.

Who knows, they lost time early in that Tour, they were not at their best and that's what matters. It's much harder to be in the best form at the Giro/Tour if you peak that early. Roglic in 2023 came in Tirreno undercooked and barely won thanks to his sprint.

The failure of Froome-Dumo in 2018 made it that no top GC rider tried the double until Pog.

 

[Froome]

Good decision by doing PN. He never won the race. He already won last year TA.

Vuelta Catalunya should be in his calendar.

I hope he does some one day races in April, instead of doing Basque Country, or he can do Tour Romandie.

 

[Tymek]

We will know in December. I hope he doesn't ride the Giro. I think he can reach Pogacar's ceilling but he can't have his "high base level" so I don't believe he can cruise in the Giro at 80-90% like Pogacar. A full peak Vingegaard vs a full peak Pogacar is all I want to see in the biggest rivalry Cycling has ever witnessed

I hope he will ride Giro. Cyclist like him should have all GT in his palmares.

 

[RedheadDane]

Why do you doubt it? Wouldn't it make sense to give him his own shot?

So, basically a swap compared to this year?

 

[Tymek]

Guys like Remco/Roglic can easily

We already know that Remco isn’t going to the Giro, because of his crash and I think Roglič isn’t any problem for Jonas.

 

[Tymek]

O Granvingoyard
Paris nice
Vuelta catalunya
Fleche wallone
Liege bastogne liege
Dauphine
Tour
Vuelta

My prediction.

I think he won’t ride Ardennes, but it would be very nice to see him there.

 

[Luthor]

We already know that Remco isn’t going to the Giro, because of his crash and I think Roglič isn’t any problem for Jonas.

Roglic will just sit in his wheel forcing Jonas to attack. Jonas is gonna have to go high watts like he did in Tour this year when he dropped Roglic out of his wheel. But the cost is important, it might tire him for Tour. Roglic ain't Martinez/Thomas not to mention he is gonna have Hindley/Martinez pacing him.

Froome had to dig deep to get the Giro in 2018 which might have costed him a better form in Tour.

 

[Peyroteo94]

We already know that Remco isn’t going to the Giro, because of his crash and I think Roglič isn’t any problem for Jonas.

Neither is Remco.

 

[Tymek]

Neither is Remco.

Of course. The difference is Remco wouldn’t appear on start of the Giro, and Roglič will.

 

[AmRacer]

Of course. The difference is Remco wouldn’t appear on start of the Giro, and Roglič will.

It won't make any difference for Jonas.

 

[Berniece]

So, basically a swap compared to this year?

Yeah, I don't see why Jorgenson needs to play domestique when it isn't that important. He will be in great form, and it will be good to give him his own shot

 

[Barttej]

Matteo will ride Tirreno

No, Jorgenson will also ride Paris-Nice.

 

[Tymek]

No, Jorgenson will also ride Paris-Nice.

No he isn’t.

 

[Mlarsen]

Last year the team presentation of Team Visma | Lease a Bike happend on the 21th of december. I have not read anywhere about the date of this years team presentation ?! Do You have ? Its soon Christmas....so it must bee soon ? ..... or what ?

https://www.teamvismaleaseabike.com...presentation-of-team-visma-lease-a-bike-here/

Cheers
Michael, Denmark

 

[Froome]

We already know that Remco isn’t going to the Giro, because of his crash and I think Roglič isn’t any problem for Jonas.

The only real problem for Vingegaard in terms of GTs is crashing and spending 2 weeks in the intensive care, 3 months before the Tour.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Jonas is welcomed at the Giro. Rogla will need to beat Pogi, Jonas and Remco anyway, likely better if one at a time. Only at the Tour i feel it's better if all of them are there and in best shape.

 

[acm]

Last year the team presentation of Team Visma | Lease a Bike happend on the 21th of december. I have not read anywhere about the date of this years team presentation ?! Do You have ? Its soon Christmas....so it must bee soon ? ..... or what ?

https://www.teamvismaleaseabike.com...presentation-of-team-visma-lease-a-bike-here/

Cheers
Michael, Denmark

January 14th

 

[Mlarsen]

January 14th

Strange that it is that late ? It Used to be before christmas??

 

[Mlarsen]

January 14th

Where have you read it ?

 

[CyclistAbi]

Strange that it is that late ? It Used to be before christmas??

I guess Pogi should decide first if he is doing Giro or Vuelta. I doubt Jonas and Visma are interested in doing two Jonas vs. Pogi GTs in the 2025 season.

 

[Froome]

I guess Pogi should decide first if he is doing Giro or Vuelta. I doubt Jonas and Visma are interested in doing two Jonas vs. Pogi GTs in the 2025 season.

I think it will happen two jonas vs pogi, in the Tour and Vuelta.

They are afraid of the long range defence, that's why they will not go to the Giro.

 

[CyclistAbi]

They are afraid of the long range defence, that's why they will not go to the Giro.

Hard to argue with that.

I think it will happen two jonas vs pogi, in the Tour and Vuelta.

If both lose the Tour and neither does Giro, they maybe.

 

[acm]

Where have you read it ?

Slovenian media

 

[Mlarsen]

 

[Rou]

Pogi laughing after Vingo told him that he will bust his a** doing 7 W/KG for 50 mins on Mont Ventoux.