Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Love in Iberia

[Oldermanish]

In fact, Pogačar was so cooked after the Tour this year, he didn't even do the Vuelta.

....just those other races. He won.

 

[Cookster15]

In fact, Pogačar was so cooked after the Tour this year, he didn't even do the Vuelta.

But after the Tour Pogacar won:

September:
Grand Prix Cycliste de Québec
Grand Prix Cycliste de Montréal
World Championships Road Race

October:
Giro dell'Emilia
Il Lombardia

I don't think he decided against the Vuelta because he was cooked. It simply wasn't in his plans. Just as well perhaps.

 

[ZvitaFeltna]

But after the Tour Pogacar won:

September:
Grand Prix Cycliste de Québec
Grand Prix Cycliste de Montréal
World Championships Road Race

October:
Giro dell'Emilia
Il Lombardia

I don't think he decided against the Vuelta because he was cooked. It simply wasn't in his plans. Just as well perhaps.

He didn't win Grand Prix Cycliste de Québec, Bling won that.

 

[Berniece]

But after the Tour Pogacar won:

September:
Grand Prix Cycliste de Québec
Grand Prix Cycliste de Montréal
World Championships Road Race

October:
Giro dell'Emilia
Il Lombardia

I don't think he decided against the Vuelta because he was cooked. It simply wasn't in his plans. Just as well perhaps.

He said he didn’t do it because he was tired

 

[Krzysztof_O]

We will know in December. I hope he doesn't ride the Giro. I think he can reach Pogacar's ceilling but he can't have his "high base level" so I don't believe he can cruise in the Giro at 80-90% like Pogacar. A full peak Vingegaard vs a full peak Pogacar is all I want to see in the biggest rivalry Cycling has ever witnessed

Four consecutive top2 places in the Tour and counting. They already matched all GTs top2 total of Coppi vs Bartali. This rivalry lacks charisma of the Italian duo but there's still time for more "no balls" and "being afraid" comments or Vingo breaking into Pogi's hotel room searching for the Holy Grail of cycling.

 

[Froome]

‘I Have a Lot of Faith’: Jonas Vingegaard Stays Optimistic about Vanquishing Tadej Pogačar Once Again

‘I Have a Lot of Faith’: Two-time Tour winner Vingegaard talks injuries, miracles, key rivals and a ‘crazy year.’

velo.outsideonline.com

He also thinks it was a miracle.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Where will he release his racing program?

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Where will he release his racing program?

On the Visma website/SoMe channels, I assume.

 

[Peyroteo94]

On the Visma website/SoMe channels, I assume.

Sorry, I would want to say When...

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Sorry, I would want to say When...

I figured as much, but I don't really care about when it happens. We also pretty much know what he might ride anyway. The only question is whether RCS's offer was interesting enough for him to (possibly) worsen his chances of winning the Tour/spend less time with his family.

 

[Netserk]

I figured as much, but I don't really care about when it happens. We also pretty much know what he might ride anyway. The only question is whether RCS's offer was interesting enough for him to (possibly) worsen his chances of winning the Tour/spend less time with his family.

We do? I'd guess he does Tirreno and Catalunya, but I think his schedule from Camino to Tour is quite open.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

We do? I'd guess he does Tirreno and Catalunya, but I think his schedule from Camino to Tour is quite open.

And my point is that it is quite likely to remain open, in the sense that he won't be racing much as per usual, but we'll see.

 

[Froome]

O Granvingoyard
Paris nice
Vuelta catalunya
Fleche wallone
Liege bastogne liege
Dauphine
Tour
Vuelta

My prediction.

 

[Barttej]

Vingegaard will start in Paris-Nice.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Selfishly, as a cycling fan, I want to see Pog vs. Vingo as frequently as possible.

 

[Peyroteo94]

A PN participation probably means no Giro d'Italia.

 

[Luthor]

A PN participation probably means no Giro d'Italia.

Thought the same tbh, PN/TA is usually not preparation for Giro. They did it last year with Cian and ended up bad.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Thought the same tbh, PN/TA is usually not preparation for Giro. They did it last year with Cian and ended up bad.

I don't think that was the reason it ended badly. However a TA participation would have implied there was some kind of agreement with RCS.

 

[YavorD]

Thought the same tbh, PN/TA is usually not preparation for Giro. They did it last year with Cian and ended up bad.

Where is this coming from?
I can't remember who is the last Giro winner not to start TA in the same year.
Okay, except for Pogacar of course.

 

[Luthor]

Where is this coming from?
I can't remember who is the last Giro winner not to start TA in the same year.
Okay, except for Pogacar of course.

Giro-Tour is a heavy schedule. Froome/Dumoulin went for TA in 2018 and got burned. Roglic went for TA in 2023 but he skipped Tour, same for others. Roglic is doing Giro-Tour but skips PN/TA. Same for Pog last year.

I don't think that was the reason it ended badly. However a TA participation would have implied there was some kind of agreement with RCS.

Cian's preparation was bad, he was overcooked. I think he would've liked PN more anyway since he hasn't won it yet. And RCS would pay him anyway no matter what, they're in no position to make demands.

 

[YavorD]

Giro-Tour is a heavy schedule. Froome/Dumoulin went for TA in 2018 and got burned. Roglic went for TA in 2023 but he skipped Tour, same for others. Roglic is doing Giro-Tour but skips PN/TA. Same for Pog last year.

I don't think that Froome and Dumoulin would suddenly win the Tour had they done Catalunya instead of TA (as Roglic/Pog).
No, I don't think he'll do the Giro but I don't think it's would be a problem for the Tour if he does Camino and TA/PN before the Giro.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Thought the same tbh, PN/TA is usually not preparation for Giro. They did it last year with Cian and ended up bad.

Don't understand this comment, every giro winner from 2013 onwards has done tirreno, with the exception of pogacar

 

[Netserk]

The Paris-Nice route suits him better, 1-2 is likely with Jorgenson against merely Almeida.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Where is this coming from?
I can't remember who is the last Giro winner not to start TA in the same year.
Okay, except for Pogacar of course.

An extraordinarily high correlation: Hesjedal in 2012 was the last before this year. Very odd considering the closeness in parcours and date to PN.

 

[pastronef]

The Paris-Nice route suits him better, 1-2 is likely with Jorgenson against merely Almeida.

Matteo will ride Tirreno