Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Love in Iberia

[Netserk]

Vingegaard neemt het mogelijk eerder op tegen Pogacar: “Zijn we aan het bekijken”

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“Of course, we would have liked to have Jonas at the start there. That wasn’t possible, but he is definitely on the right track again. It’s true that we’re now looking at what’s possible for him. It depends on when Jonas feels fully fit again and whether we can fit an extra race into his program. But, of course, the Tour preparation remains our absolute priority.”

So he doesn't feel fully fit yet.

“I read in a sports newspaper about all the possible races Jonas could do, but some of those options aren’t even on our calendar. I don’t think we even have enough riders available to suddenly add a new stage race to our program. But there are definitely options if we decide that Jonas needs another race. It has to serve the Tour—that’s the most important thing for us. We are now working on a new plan with his coaches to determine how crucial an extra race would be.”

“It’s always great when Jonas races,” Niermann continued. “Normally, if he participates, it means he is strong enough to compete for the win. That aligns with our goal of winning races. On the other hand, Jonas is our main focus for the summer and the Tour de France. We are also considering him for the Vuelta a España. That means we need to set priorities. We won’t send him to races that would interfere with his altitude training. That’s not how it works. If he does an extra race, it must contribute to his Tour preparation.”

Last year, the Sierra Nevada altitude camp was the three weeks during the Giro. If it's the same this year, I guess a training camp 8 days after Romandie can be done just fine, even if that is not how the team usually prepares for the Tour.

Could that mean the Ardennes Classics or the Tour de Romandie? “We’re looking into it. But we won’t send Jonas to a race at half-strength. If he races, he has to be 100% ready to compete for victory.”

Obviously, that rules out the Ardennes.

I still think he most likely won't race before Dauphiné, but at this point Romandie is really the only option before that.

He also made it pretty clear they are very deliberately avoiding Itzulia.

Only the journalist made that clear, no quote from Niermann about Itzulia.

 

[Peyroteo94]

So he doesn't feel fully fit yet.



Last year, the Sierra Nevada altitude camp was the three weeks during the Giro. If it's the same this year, I guess a training camp 8 days after Romandie can be done just fine, even if that is not how the team usually prepares for the Tour.



Obviously, that rules out the Ardennes.

I still think he most likely won't race before Dauphiné, but at this point Romandie is really the only option before that.

I think Giro del Trentino would be a good option too.

 

[Netserk]

I think Giro del Trentino would be a good option too.

He addresses that as can be read in the quotes in my post: “I read in a sports newspaper about all the possible races Jonas could do, but some of those options aren’t even on our calendar. I don’t think we even have enough riders available to suddenly add a new stage race to our program.”

 

[Red Rick]

So he doesn't feel fully fit yet.



Last year, the Sierra Nevada altitude camp was the three weeks during the Giro. If it's the same this year, I guess a training camp 8 days after Romandie can be done just fine, even if that is not how the team usually prepares for the Tour.



Obviously, that rules out the Ardennes.

I still think he most likely won't race before Dauphiné, but at this point Romandie is really the only option before that.

Only the journalist made that clear, no quote from Niermann about Itzulia.

I agree, it's pretty much Romandie or bust. Mainly because they talk about winning too.

I actually do think he could do very well in Fleche.

 

[Mayomaniac]

I think Giro del Trentino would be a good option too.

Sadly they don't race that race, seeing him in my hometown would be cool.

 

[Froome]

Nierman talked to WF. He said Vingegaard is doing fine a this moment, they're thinking about adding races to his schedule. They're thinking about Fleche Wallone and LBL or Romandie.

He also made it pretty clear they are very deliberately avoiding Itzulia.

Vingegaard neemt het mogelijk eerder op tegen Pogacar: “Zijn we aan het bekijken”

We krijgen mogelijk nog voor het Critérium du Dauphiné 2025 een krachtmeting tussen Jonas Vingegaard en Tadej Pogačar. De Deense kopman van Visma | Lease a Bike miste de Ronde van Catalonië door een hersenschudding. Daarna zou hij vakantie nemen en vanaf mei toewerken naar de Tour de France. Het...

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It makes all the sense doing FW, LBL and Romandie.

Obviously he is not a better one day racer than pogacar, van der poel, or remco, but he can be competitive there.

He is very good in 5 min efforts.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Why are they deciding between LBL and romandi??? Surely he can do both and then go to Teide to prepare the daupgine, then tignes and then tdf. This is a very normal and light schedule in the build to tdf.

Is it written in his contract that he can only do a certain number of races, with his wife's approval? It's like he hate his job

 

[Peyroteo94]

Why are they deciding between LBL and romandi??? Surely he can do both and then go to Teide to prepare the daupgine, then tignes and then tdf. This is a very normal and light schedule in the build to tdf.

Is it written in his contract that he can only do a certain number of races, with his wife's approval? It's like he hate his job

However it is strange to me they are thinking in doing FW and LBL. These 2 races are very hectic and I don't know he is truly prepared to race them after a DNF in PN.

 

[Berniece]

Why are they deciding between LBL and romandi??? Surely he can do both and then go to Teide to prepare the daupgine, then tignes and then tdf. This is a very normal and light schedule in the build to tdf.

Is it written in his contract that he can only do a certain number of races, with his wife's approval? It's like he hate his job

They are afraid he does too much before doing TDF-Vuelta double

 

[yaf2]

Imagine riding liege and wheel sucking from top of la redoute to the city of liege🤭

 

[ciranda]

why would that happen yaf2?

 

[kn0s]

Imagine riding liege and wheel sucking from top of la redoute to the city of liege🤭

What?

 

[Mina.S]

Jonas is planning on doing WC this year so like he probably should do some one day racing.

 

[Froome]

Jonas is planning on doing WC this year so like he probably should do some one day racing.

Big mistake. The route of WC is trash.

 

[Berniece]

Big mistake. The route of WC is trash.

Is he ever going to get a better route than this year? With so much altitude

 

[E_F_]

Is he ever going to get a better route than this year? With so much altitude

Yes in two years it'll suit him much better. Should be a pure climbers' course in Haute-Savoie.

 

[Netserk]

Is he ever going to get a better route than this year? With so much altitude

Depends on what the route will be this year. The original 2020 route should be the best possible one for him (and not one where there should be any transfer from the additional experience of riding Liège for a 4th time).

 

[Berniece]

Yes in two years it'll suit him much better. Should be a pure climbers' course in Haute-Savoie.

Cool, but then it still makes sense to ride this one. Even if it's just for the experience

 

[E_F_]

Cool, but then it still makes sense to ride this one. Even if it's just for the experience

I agree. I want him to race one days and champs.

 

[Froome]

Is he ever going to get a better route than this year? With so much altitude

I thought the route was going to have some hard climbs, but from the profile i saw on procyclingstats, the route looks very easy.

 

[Froome]

I agree. I want him to race one days and champs.

I have been critic about him not doing one day races.

There is no reason for not doing FW, LBL and Il Lombardia every year. He can be competitive there.

 

[Red Rick]

I have been critic about him not doing one day races.

There is no reason for not doing FW, LBL and Il Lombardia every year. He can be competitive there.

I think the issue is seasonal planning. When you have a racing block where you go hard on Tirreno and Itzulia, it's hard to still have it for the Ardennes.

I really think for many riders who are supposedly "terrible" at one day races it's mainly a matter of not getting the preperation right for a one day race. The Ardennes are too late in the spring.

Lombardia is similarly very late in the season, and he did try to peak for it, but frankly he looked off in Croatia and I think doing a stage race doesn't help you in 1 day specific planning.

 

[Earns1985]

He addresses that as can be read in the quotes in my post: “I read in a sports newspaper about all the possible races Jonas could do, but some of those options aren’t even on our calendar. I don’t think we even have enough riders available to suddenly add a new stage race to our program.”

What do you guys think about Classic Grand Besançon Doubs, Tour de Jura and Tour du Doubs as alternatives to the Ardennes Classics for Vingegaard this year? All three races have a mountain top finish and Visma will take part this year.

 

[AmRacer]

Any news? When will he race again? Before Dauphine?

 

[Lorzenz08]

Any news? When will he race again? Before Dauphine?

I dont think so. Dauphine and then TdF