Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Love in Iberia

[Krzysztof_O]

Until today Vingo had only one more GT victory than Tao Hart or Ryder Hesjedal. Now it's better but still way too low for his quality.

 

[ice&fire]

Until today Vingo had only one more GT victory than Tao Hart or Ryder Hesjedal. Now it's better but still way too low for his quality.

I'd rather have two wins against Pogacar than against Hindley and Purito

 

[Red Rick]

Until today Vingo had only one more GT victory than Tao Hart or Ryder Hesjedal. Now it's better but still way too low for his quality.

His legend will always be that he was the only one to beat Pogacar at the TdF.

Every tennis fan knows who beat Nadal at Roland Garros in 2009, and the guy didn't even win RG and he retired 2 years later

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I'd rather have two wins against Pogacar than against Hindley and Purito

Obviously, I just meant pure number: 2 GTs doesn't reflect his quality at all.

 

[Red Rick]

I'd rather have two wins against Pogacar than against Hindley and Purito

I'd rather win Egan Bernals TdF than win the Vuelta against Valverde and Pogacar.

 

[Peyroteo94]

His legend will always be that he was the only one to beat Pogacar at the TdF.

Every tennis fan knows who beat Nadal at Roland Garros in 2009, and the guy didn't even win RG and he retired 2 years later

Pretty much this.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I'd rather win Egan Bernals TdF than win the Vuelta against Valverde and Pogacar.

Rogla beat convincingly two legends then!

 

[AmRacer]

Rogla beat convincingly two legends then!

One legend and one to be

 

[Oldman]

I suppose it might depend whether he/ the team actually think he has a shot against Pogacar at the Tour. I know at the moment they seem fairly far apart, but I'm always conscious that I thought the same, but in favour of Vingegaard, after the 2023 Tour.

Vingegaard can take next season's training from healthy footing based on this result. He should have fun racing the rest of the season and JV needs to fully figure out that strategy needs to be flexible to win a Tour. It'll also be a different season and everyone is at risk for being ill prepared. Everyone. He needs to race the Tour with maybe the Vuelta as plan B.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

One legend and one to be

If one scrolls the list of Vuelta podium finishers he will say: "Wow, that Roglic guy was legends destroyer at Vuelta". He won't calculate their ages (grandpa and baby, in this case)

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Obviously, I just meant pure number: 2 GTs doesn't reflect his quality at all.

0 GTs doesn't reflect my level either. It should be a negative number.

 

[Top Climber]

Congratulations, Jonas!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1967314276458360917

View: https://x.com/vingeupdates/status/1967314276458360917

 

[Cycling111]

Carry a 10 euro bill on the mobile.

 

[RedheadDane]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1967341919794758092

 

[Peter von]

Congratulations, Jonas!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1967314276458360917

View: https://x.com/vingeupdates/status/1967314276458360917

Was that a cheap Bluetooth speaker or a phone in a cup?

Great stuff tho and a win is a win. Jonas Vingegaard won the race being the strongest guy over three weeks. They probably aimed at a few more stage wins, but the overall was the important bit.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Congratulations on winning La Vuelta.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

According to Vingo, he closed the gap to Pogacar, despite losing the Tour by 4.5 minutes:

"I’ve closed the gap to Tadej Pogacar" - Vuelta win renews Jonas Vingegaard's confidence ahead of upcoming European Championships

Jonas Vingegaard believes his victory at the 2025 Vuelta a Espana has brought him closer than ever to long-time rival Tadej Pogacar – and renewed his belief that he can take the fight to the Slovenian...

cyclinguptodate.com

It's way too optimistic but probably a proper way of thinking for a top sportsman. He lost a lot of time on his bad days but states that on his best days Pog couldn't drop him. He doesn't take into account that Pog likely also had some worse days (later in the race) plus Vingo in top form actually lost substantial time in relatively short Peyreguades TT.

 

[tobydawq]

0 GTs doesn't reflect my level either. It should be a negative number.

So you're not similar in skill to Purito?

 

[Red Rick]

According to Vingo, he closed the gap to Pogacar, despite losing the Tour by 4.5 minutes:

"I’ve closed the gap to Tadej Pogacar" - Vuelta win renews Jonas Vingegaard's confidence ahead of upcoming European Championships

Jonas Vingegaard believes his victory at the 2025 Vuelta a Espana has brought him closer than ever to long-time rival Tadej Pogacar – and renewed his belief that he can take the fight to the Slovenian...

cyclinguptodate.com

It's way too optimistic but probably a proper way of thinking for a top sportsman. He lost a lot of time on his bad days but states that on his best days Pog couldn't drop him. He doesn't take into account that Pog likely also had some worse days (later in the race) plus Vingo in top form actually lost substantial time in relatively short Peyreguades TT.

Tbh even if you believe this I don't understand saying it lol.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Tbh even if you believe this I don't understand saying it lol.

I think Vingegaard performance overall was similar to last year but I rate 2024 higher due to his troubled preparation. Pogacar IMO was circa 2 minutes worse this year than in 2024 (mostly due to the last week).

 

[Berniece]

Obviously, I just meant pure number: 2 GTs doesn't reflect his quality at all.

He gifted a GT, and there was 1 season too many where he only rode TDF

 

[Peyroteo94]

According to Vingo, he closed the gap to Pogacar, despite losing the Tour by 4.5 minutes:

"I’ve closed the gap to Tadej Pogacar" - Vuelta win renews Jonas Vingegaard's confidence ahead of upcoming European Championships

Jonas Vingegaard believes his victory at the 2025 Vuelta a Espana has brought him closer than ever to long-time rival Tadej Pogacar – and renewed his belief that he can take the fight to the Slovenian...

cyclinguptodate.com

It's way too optimistic but probably a proper way of thinking for a top sportsman. He lost a lot of time on his bad days but states that on his best days Pog couldn't drop him. He doesn't take into account that Pog likely also had some worse days (later in the race) plus Vingo in top form actually lost substantial time in relatively short Peyreguades TT.

He is crazy. Maybe his concussion in PN was more severe than we think.

 

[Red Rick]

I think Vingegaard performance overall was similar to last year but I rate 2024 way higher due to his troubled preparation. Pogacar IMO was circa 2 minutes worse this year than in 2024 (mostly due to the last week).

I don't believe we can say such things confidently.

For me the gap on the MTT was way too big for Vingegaard to confidently claim it wasn't a big gap, unless there's a certain confidence that if Pogacar has to go that hard he'll burn himself out fast.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I don't believe we can say such things confidently.

For me the gap on the MTT was way too big for Vingegaard to confidently claim it wasn't a big gap, unless there's a certain confidence that if Pogacar has to go that hard he'll burn himself out fast.

It's just my perception regarding their performances. I actually agree with you: Vingo's 2025 performance isn't optimistic at all due to supposedly great preparation. In 2024 he was more impressive to me, all things considered.

 

[Red Rick]

It's just my perception regarding their performances. I actually agree with you: Vingo's 2025 performance isn't optimistic at all due to supposedly great preparation. In 2024 he was more impressive to me, all things considered.

Also, the gaps in the MTT and the Nice time trials don't remotely align. So I'm inclined to think Pogacar was at a higher level than 2024 at least on Hautacam and Peyragudes.