Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Love in Iberia

[SHAD0W93]

UAE would need to set a searing pace at the foot to try and shell out Tulett/Kuss/Jorgensen early so they are too far behind to help pace Jonas if he was to drop.

Biggest problem there is that such pacing is the last thing Almeida usually responds well to.

Only one way to find out what happens and a hard stage will distance Pidcock most likely leaving second unthreatened.

 

[lenric]

a cynic would say his best days might be behind him.

 

[Psycat]

a cynic would say his best days might be behind him.

A realist would aswell.

 

[KoopaCycling]

Very lucky with a shortened ITT today. Not a real victory if he wins and woudl therefore sit on 2,5 GTs

Glad to see you're making outrageous claims everywhere. not just in the remco thread

 

[theyoungest]

A realist would aswell.

Not a realist, as you don't know his level relative to where he was two years ago. Obviously this Vuelta he's not at his best, but that's not a benchmark for anything.

It's interesting how this guy is about to win (!) a grand tour and all the reactions are about how he's worse than ever Talk about realism.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Not a realist, as you don't know his level relative to where he was two years ago. Obviously this Vuelta he's not at his best, but that's not a benchmark for anything.

It's interesting how this guy is about to win (!) a grand tour and all the reactions are about how he's worse than ever Talk about realism.

Vingegaard was miles above the rest (except Pogacar) not a long time ago while he's not now. Obviously Vuelta being his second consecutive GT (after a hard Tour) is likely a factor here. He wasn't that strong in 2023 Vuelta either.

 

[Netserk]

Vingegaard was miles above the rest (except Pogacar) not a long time ago while he's not now. Obviously Vuelta being his second consecutive GT (after a hard Tour) is likely a factor here. He wasn't that strong in 2023 Vuelta either.

He was pretty good in the first week before he got ill.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

He was pretty good in the first week before he got ill.

Wasn't he also ill in the first part of 2023 Vuelta? I would say a hard-fought Tour against Pogacar can be a factor in those cases making him more prone to ilnesses. There's a reason why Pogacar doesn't want to do Vuelta after the Tour against Vingo either.

 

[theyoungest]

Vingegaard was miles above the rest (except Pogacar) not a long time ago while he's not now. Obviously Vuelta being his second consecutive GT (after a hard Tour) is likely a factor here. He wasn't that strong in 2023 Vuelta either.

I think he was stronger in the 2023 Vuelta, and personally if they let them race for it I think he would have won. I'm not saying I'm impressed with him in this Vuelta, of course not, but he clearly can do better than this and he'll still probably win the race, so I don't know why people conclude his career is basically over. He's just tired after a demanding battle with Pogi.

 

[Netserk]

Wasn't he also ill in the first part of 2023 Vuelta? I would say a hard-fought Tour against Pogacar can be a factor in those cases making him more prone to ilnesses. There's a reason why Pogacar doesn't want to do Vuelta after the Tour against Vingo either.

I think it was a brief bit of gastro in 23 and maybe covid this year.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I think it was a brief bit of gastro in 23 and maybe covid this year.

Has he ever said he's ill during this Vuelta?

 

[Netserk]

Has he ever said he's ill during this Vuelta?

Yes, but only after the fact. It was pretty obvious after Campy left the race.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1966473094249521378

View: https://x.com/vingeupdates/status/1966473094249521378

 

[Red Rick]

I think it was a brief bit of gastro in 23 and maybe covid this year.

2023 his performance pattern was overall pretty strange. When did he supposedly have the gastro?

 

[Netserk]

2023 his performance pattern was overall pretty strange. When did he supposedly have the gastro?

After Andorra.

- Det var ikke mit stolteste øjeblik, siger Vingegaard om maveonde

Maveproblemer tvang den danske Tour-vinder af cyklen i første uge af Vuelta a España.

sport.tv2.dk

 

[Red Rick]

After Andorra.

- Det var ikke mit stolteste øjeblik, siger Vingegaard om maveonde

Maveproblemer tvang den danske Tour-vinder af cyklen i første uge af Vuelta a España.

sport.tv2.dk

It didn't last that long right? It was over by Jalavambre when he hopped onto Roglic and when Kuss took his minutes.

 

[Netserk]

It didn't last that long right? It was over by Jalavambre when he hopped onto Roglic and when Kuss took his minutes.

Yeah, it sounds like he was most affected on stage 5 and then recovered after that.

 

[lenric]

A realist would aswell.

that's a stretch imo. would rather wait for next year for that.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Job done (knock on Michael Woods). Today he showed the Mundo he's still got some Bolas.

 

[Netserk]

A mixed year, but good to end on a high note. He has been in a good place mentally already since Dauphiné, perhaps also in spring. Should be much fresher and still plenty hungry this winter, last year he was completely empty after Pologne.

I really hope he won't ride the Giro, even if it will be very difficult to mount a proper challenge to Pogi in the Tour. And the Vuelta is good as second target.

 

[AmRacer]

A mixed year, but good to end on a high note. He has been in a good place mentally already since Dauphiné, perhaps also in spring. Should be much fresher and still plenty hungry this winter, last year he was completely empty after Pologne.

I really hope he won't ride the Giro, even if it will be very difficult to mount a proper challenge to Pogi in the Tour. And the Vuelta is good as second target.

The Giro would be his third consecutive GT, but he surely wants to win it.

 

[fenns]

Good to see him win like a champ. It always seemed likely he had a bit in hand and was controlling the race. It must be 5+ years since anyone other than Pogacar took meaningful time off him on a mountain stage.

 

[KoopaCycling]

Visma strategy. try at tour, rebound in spain

 

[Heston]

Chapeau Jonas. A strong win right after a tough Tour.

 

[Netserk]

After the stage today, he says that he was troubled by illness since his stage 9 victory. Today was his best day since then.

Vingegaards sygdom har været værre, end han fortalte

Vi har også snakket med Jonas Vingegaard efter sejren på 20. etape, hvor han kørte sig snublende tæt på Vuelta-sejren.

sport.tv2.dk

 

[Peyroteo94]

A mixed year, but good to end on a high note. He has been in a good place mentally already since Dauphiné, perhaps also in spring. Should be much fresher and still plenty hungry this winter, last year he was completely empty after Pologne.

I really hope he won't ride the Giro, even if it will be very difficult to mount a proper challenge to Pogi in the Tour. And the Vuelta is good as second target.

Why?