Yeah less than 3 mins deficit, most would assume vingegaard would eat that fast unless pogi was in his wheel and they started racing tactically.
And Jonas didn’t even finish 2nd.
Still went pretty effing fast tho.
And Jonas didn’t even finish 2nd.
Still went pretty effing fast tho.
- Jul 8, 2017
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Froome did his first Tour-Vuelta combo in 2012. Practically cally, the only year Froome didn't try a double was 2013*.
*Yep, he crashed in 2014 but I have no doubt he'd start Vuelta anyway.
- Aug 13, 2011
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Yes but I was replying to what @Netserk posted in regard to when Froome actually started winning the Tour and then doing the Vuelta after that win.
- Jul 8, 2017
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Yes, but still Froome did the Vuelta after his second Tour win. I see no reason for Vingegaard not to ride the Vuelta. He isn't going to the WC, doesn't seem to have aspirations in the Italian classics, so trying a double is the only thing that make sense. No pressure, just see how it goes..
Okay, Roglic may be a reason for Vingegaard not to start
Yeah big *** move to steal Rogi's captaincy in La Vuelta.
But I don't know man, Vingegaard is allowed to be gassed out after this Tour, looking at the gaps now it looks like an easy win, but no such thing as an easy win over Pogi.
- Apr 30, 2011
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He should start this year already if he is fresh enough. He’s been flying since Dauphiné, so maybe he needs some rest. As for Rogla, I think the goal should be to support him, and then if it’s possible to finish 1-2.
- Feb 20, 2012
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- Jan 11, 2010
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He didn't go exceptionally fast if you compare him to Gall. He did take 2 minutes on Adam Yates, the closest finisher from the favourites group. On Granon the closest finisher was Quintana at "just" a minute. So it depends on how you look at it.
- Aug 13, 2011
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Yes, which is what I meant when I said Froome did the Vuelta in 2015 after winning the Tour which was his second. Netserk had said Froome did it after his third Tour win.
- Feb 20, 2012
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Granon was definitely more impressive because Vingegaard had put much more effort into the race on Telegraphe and Galibier than Quintana, Bardet and the likes. He took basically 1'40 on Quintana in the last 5 km, doing stupid W/kg for the final 15 minutes of Granon.
- Jan 11, 2010
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If you compare it to Geraint Thomas, who was in the little "breakaway" on the Telegraphe, yesterday's gap was still bigger. I definitely think Vingegaard had more grinta on Granon, but for someone who didn't really have to anymore he did create quite a big gap yesterday.
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According to ammattipyöräily (@ammattipyoraily)
COL DE LA LOZE (last 7.00 km, 9.37 %, 656 m)
22:04 | Vingegaard
23:16 | Gall
23:37 | S.Yates
24:06 | A.Yates
24:42 | Bilbao, Gaudu
24:55 | Hindley
25:10 | Carlos Rodriguez
25:15 | Harper
25:22 | T.Johannessen
25:45 | Kuss
25:55 | Pinot
26:42 | Soler, Pogacar
Seems to me like Vinge was on a good day. 2 minutes to A Yates in 7k!
Gall really impressive.
According to ammattipyöräily (@ammattipyoraily)
COL DE LA LOZE (last 7.00 km, 9.37 %, 656 m)
22:04 | Vingegaard
23:16 | Gall
23:37 | S.Yates
24:06 | A.Yates
24:42 | Bilbao, Gaudu
24:55 | Hindley
25:10 | Carlos Rodriguez
25:15 | Harper
25:22 | T.Johannessen
25:45 | Kuss
25:55 | Pinot
26:42 | Soler, Pogacar
Seems to me like Vinge was on a good day. 2 minutes to A Yates in 7k!
Gall really impressive.
- Apr 30, 2011
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I did not.
His last 3 Tour wins were 2015-2017. After each of them he rode the Vuelta.
- Aug 13, 2011
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- Jul 18, 2020
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In contrast, yesterday, the stage was also hard. They spent 4.139 Kilojoules during 4 hours before col de la loze, there was 5400 vertical meters, and it was in the third week. Granon was in the beginning of the second week.
Vingegaard is the team leader. If he wants to challenge Remco at la Vuelta, that should be his choice. Not a *** move for wanting a double over Rog's double
- Jul 16, 2015
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It really would be a d*ck move, especially considering Roglič asked the team if he could ride the Tour after the Giro & they said no.
But whatever, that's just my opinion & anything is possible. I normally really wouldn't expect Vingegaard to go the Vuelta but I have no idea what his ambitions are.
Last year he switched off after the Tour.
- Jul 18, 2020
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Don't forget about the motos. We still would need to take 15/20 seconds to that time.https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily
According to ammattipyöräily (@ammattipyoraily)
COL DE LA LOZE (last 7.00 km, 9.37 %, 656 m)
22:04 | Vingegaard
23:16 | Gall
23:37 | S.Yates
24:06 | A.Yates
24:42 | Bilbao, Gaudu
24:55 | Hindley
25:10 | Carlos Rodriguez
25:15 | Harper
25:22 | T.Johannessen
25:45 | Kuss
25:55 | Pinot
26:42 | Soler, Pogacar
Seems to me like Vinge was on a good day. 2 minutes to A Yates in 7k!
Gall really impressive.
- Jul 7, 2013
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Vinge will officially go as Rogla's superdom. During one stage he will accelerate a bit more not believing what his computer shows and saying the radio isn't working.
- Jun 30, 2022
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Jai Hindley is closer to Marc Soler and Pogačar‘s corpse than Vingegaard climbingwise.https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily
According to ammattipyöräily (@ammattipyoraily)
COL DE LA LOZE (last 7.00 km, 9.37 %, 656 m)
22:04 | Vingegaard
23:16 | Gall
23:37 | S.Yates
24:06 | A.Yates
24:42 | Bilbao, Gaudu
24:55 | Hindley
25:10 | Carlos Rodriguez
25:15 | Harper
25:22 | T.Johannessen
25:45 | Kuss
25:55 | Pinot
26:42 | Soler, Pogacar
Seems to me like Vinge was on a good day. 2 minutes to A Yates in 7k!
Gall really impressive.
- Oct 5, 2009
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- Oct 5, 2009
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Agree that Jonas still should have something left in tank in a role as a superdom for Roglic during this year's Vuelta.
- Jan 11, 2010
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Don't turn Roglic into such a victim all the time! He's a grown up man who earns millions every year doing the thing that he loves.
If Vingegaard does the Vuelta (I doubt he will, but if) we don't even know what his role will be. Maybe a super dom, maybe it'll be a test run for a possible co-captaincy in the Tour next year.
- Oct 5, 2009
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Yes, Gall very impressive taking into account he had been out there all day. Such a deserved stage win!https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily
According to ammattipyöräily (@ammattipyoraily)
COL DE LA LOZE (last 7.00 km, 9.37 %, 656 m)
22:04 | Vingegaard
23:16 | Gall
23:37 | S.Yates
24:06 | A.Yates
24:42 | Bilbao, Gaudu
24:55 | Hindley
25:10 | Carlos Rodriguez
25:15 | Harper
25:22 | T.Johannessen
25:45 | Kuss
25:55 | Pinot
26:42 | Soler, Pogacar
Seems to me like Vinge was on a good day. 2 minutes to A Yates in 7k!
Gall really impressive.
- Jan 11, 2010
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That doesn't really matter, just like it didn't matter for Hindley when he won the stage. They didn't do any work in the break, so the effort in the peloton and in the break was more or less the same.
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